Technical URGENT- THROTTLE BODY NEEDED!

[CliffordTheLittleRedPanda]

Hi!

I'm in desperate need for a throttle body for my 169 4x4.

I've had tons of trouble finding one breaking ATM because I need a fly by wire one ! All out of stock so my other option is stupid sky high price from Italy/Spain.

If you're breaking a 4x4, or an automatic transmission Panda in the UK, and have one of these, please give me a shout !!!

Happy to pay and for postage etc if it's the right one!

Got a pic of my throttle body, and the fiat part numbers for reference.

Thanks in advance

 

[koalar]

Hi!

I'm in desperate need for a throttle body for my 169 4x4.

I've had tons of trouble finding one breaking ATM because I need a fly by wire one ! All out of stock so my other option is stupid sky high price from Italy/Spain.

If you're breaking a 4x4, or an automatic transmission Panda in the UK, and have one of these, please give me a shout !!!

Happy to pay and for postage etc if it's the right one!

Got a pic of my throttle body, and the fiat part numbers for reference.

Thanks in advance

dont have one sorry

but isnt that part number the same for all 60ps engines, I could be wrong

 

[CliffordTheLittleRedPanda]

dont have one sorry

but isnt that part number the same for all 60ps engines, I could be wrong

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Hi!
Thanks for replying .


No there's two different throttle bodies (which I have unfortunately discovered through buying parts for the panda which don't fit.) Im pretty sure both versions of the throttle body have their own part numbers.

There's the common one, for most 2wd pandas. And then the rare annoying one I have which is only found in 4x4 and automatic pandas. It's got different wiring and they look surprisingly different.

So basically beware and look after the throttle body if you own a 4x4 or an automatic because this is some fresh hell finding one

 

[CliffordTheLittleRedPanda]

Hi!
Thanks for replying .


No there's two different throttle bodies (which I have unfortunately discovered through buying parts for the panda which don't fit.) Im pretty sure both versions of the throttle body have their own part numbers.

There's the common one, for most 2wd pandas. And then the rare annoying one I have which is only found in 4x4 and automatic pandas. It's got different wiring and they look surprisingly different.

So basically beware and look after the throttle body if you own a 4x4 or an automatic because this is some fresh hell finding one

**** The ones compatible with other fiats like Punto etc is the common one. I can only find mine in pandas. I've tried looking at other fiats just incase.

 

[koalar]

Hi!
Thanks for replying .


No there's two different throttle bodies (which I have unfortunately discovered through buying parts for the panda which don't fit.) Im pretty sure both versions of the throttle body have their own part numbers.

There's the common one, for most 2wd pandas. And then the rare annoying one I have which is only found in 4x4 and automatic pandas. It's got different wiring and they look surprisingly different.

So basically beware and look after the throttle body if you own a 4x4 or an automatic because this is some fresh hell finding one

there's more than 2

the 1.1 active pre 2009 is cable operated and a different opening shape on the inlet manifold for the idle control valve that isn't needed on the flyby wire

I am pretty sure the throttle body part number are missing from eper the last time I looked making it difficult to cross reference


As far as I can check the part number you have given is a standard throttle body for pre 2009 1.2 Panda and not specific to the 4x4

36smf6 magneti marelli

 

[varesecrazy]

Does a dualogic 500 have different to a panda..?? ..or Ypsillon..?

I would be doubting that..

 

[Txuchin]

I don't have a Panda 4x4 or automatic but it is equipped with that throttle body.
I bought it in Italy last year for 90 Euro shipping included:

You can make an offer to the seller and check if he agrees.
It is not possible to find that piece anywhere, not even in China.
Luck with everything.

 

[varesecrazy]

@CliffordTheLittleRedPanda

 

[CliffordTheLittleRedPanda]

I don't have a Panda 4x4 or automatic but it is equipped with that throttle body.
I bought it in Italy last year for 90 Euro shipping included:
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You can make an offer to the seller and check if he agrees.
It is not possible to find that piece anywhere, not even in China.
Luck with everything.

Thank you !

Do you have a link at all to the part on eBay? I've searched the sellers current listings and I can't see the throttle body on there.

I'm assuming maybe sold already ?

 

[CliffordTheLittleRedPanda]

Does a dualogic 500 have different to a panda..?? ..or Ypsillon..?

I would be doubting that..

That's a good idea! Thank you ! I'll take a look now

 

[Txuchin]

Try these two sellers who (I think) are accepting offers:

Corpo farfallato Fiat Panda 4x4 1.2 '07 codice Magneti Marelli 36SMF6 | eBay

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Fiat Punto Van Panda 169 188 188 AX válvula de drenaje 1.2L 1999 - | eBay

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the fiat 500 throttle body is useless. I was searching and found nothing.
Perhaps there is the possibility of adapting the connections to the throttle body of the 500 or other models.

 

[Txuchin]

Desperately, I thought of adapting another easier to get throttle body.
I don't know if it would work though.

Fortunately I was able to get the right part.

 

[CliffordTheLittleRedPanda]

Try these two sellers who (I think) are accepting offers:

Corpo farfallato Fiat Panda 4x4 1.2 '07 codice Magneti Marelli 36SMF6 | eBay

Las mejores ofertas para Corpo farfallato Fiat Panda 4x4 1.2 '07 codice Magneti Marelli 36SMF6 están en eBay ✓ Compara precios y características de productos nuevos y usados ✓ Muchos artículos con envío gratis!

www.ebay.es

Fiat Punto Van Panda 169 188 188 AX válvula de drenaje 1.2L 1999 - | eBay

Las mejores ofertas para Fiat Punto Van Panda 169 188 188 AX válvula de drenaje 1.2L 1999 - están en eBay ✓ Compara precios y características de productos nuevos y usados ✓ Muchos artículos con envío gratis!

www.ebay.es

the fiat 500 throttle body is useless. I was searching and found nothing.
Perhaps there is the possibility of adapting the connections to the throttle body of the 500 or other models.

Thank you for taking the time to find the listings, unfortunately they don't post to England ( I get a red note come up on EBAY).

I've had some developments in the issue my pandas having which is indicating towards electrical I think, so hoping I don't need a new part. Like the issue goes on and off everytime you hit the accelerator in neutral which is super duper weird. Easing off the brake pedal also helps so I'm going to try get it plugged in again incase something else like a sensor is broken.

 

[ben]

Thank you for taking the time to find the listings, unfortunately they don't post to England ( I get a red note come up on EBAY).

If you contact them directly they might be able to help you out.

I've ordered things from the US ebay which said no international delivery originally, but they accepted my order fine after I messaged them.

 

[varesecrazy]

A few local options here:

https://picclick.co.uk/Fiat-Panda-Throttle-Body-71732618-71787569-77365316-Genuine-173965342459.html

 

[DaveMcT]

Fiat part in Italy are often ridiculously cheap. This job is sorted but it's likely an Italian supplier could have helped at reasonable cost. The issue will be delivery.

 

[portland_bill]

Hi!

I'm in desperate need for a throttle body for my 169 4x4.

I've had some developments in the issue my pandas having which is indicating towards electrical I think, so hoping I don't need a new part. Like the issue goes on and off everytime you hit the accelerator in neutral which is super duper weird. Easing off the brake pedal also helps so I'm going to try get it plugged in again incase something else like a sensor is broken.

You're in desperate need... for something you hope you don't need...

This thread has started with an assumption that you need a throttle body.
How did you get to that diagnosis? If you start from the beginning, with symptoms/fault, advice on cause and fault may be upcoming. Throttle bodies are rare, because they are not a normal replacement item.

Your reference to accelerator and brake pedal operation could point to an accelerator pedal issue, (more common with fly-by-wire), or a brake switch issue, (very common).