Of course, this relies on regular oil and filter changing, and not *deliberately* abusing the car!
I wonder if Ahmett is reading this?
Of course, this relies on regular oil and filter changing, and not *deliberately* abusing the car!
So why isn't post 4 valid then
Does start/stop take much getting used to? I'm used to my old Beetle, and if the engine cuts out when you stop, you can pretty much guarentee you're not starting again very easily.. I think it's going to panic me for quite some time when I get mine..
Found an interested and potentially dangerous fault with the SS system in my Ypsilon the other day. Always wondered what would happen if during the engine being stopped (in SS mode), you engaged a gear, obviously without pressing the clutch pedal (thus avoiding restarting the engine)? I had assumed an error message would appear on the dash saying SS deactivated (like it does when one of the doors are opened during SS operation) but this is not the case.
So I then stayed in the car until the SS system decided to restart the engine (presumably when the battery voltage started dropping), propelling the car forward violently as it was in gear!
I know it was a bit of a silly experiment but on a more serious note, this particular scenario should be allowed to occur as it could potentially be dangerous.
Found an interested and potentially dangerous fault with the SS system in my Ypsilon the other day. Always wondered what would happen if during the engine being stopped (in SS mode), you engaged a gear, obviously without pressing the clutch pedal (thus avoiding restarting the engine)? I had assumed an error message would appear on the dash saying SS deactivated (like it does when one of the doors are opened during SS operation) but this is not the case.
So I then stayed in the car until the SS system decided to restart the engine (presumably when the battery voltage started dropping), propelling the car forward violently as it was in gear!
I know it was a bit of a silly experiment but on a more serious note, this particular scenario should be allowed to occur as it could potentially be dangerous.
Manufacturers can only be expected to go so far to protect idiots from their own stupidity.
Darwinian evolution should take care of the rest.
Putting in safety systems for people putting cars into gear without the clutch down (Forcing it) is no more important than protecting against people releasing the handbrake on a hill. Ie Pointless.You cannot always cater for ignorance and protecting against someone trying to put a car into gear without the clutch is ignorance in my book.
whilst I generally agree, I think this is one if those cases where s&s shouldn't be able to engage.
I agree, irrespective of whether the experiment was silly or not, that this should not be allowed to happen.
I always assumed that there was a gear lever position sensor that would ensure that unless the car was in neutral the S&S would not activate, but obviously this is not the case.
The ECU knows when and in which gear it's in
How? It's not something done on the manual box normally, only the auto dualogics. ECU has no need to know what gear the car is in, except for reverse.
The s&s has a gear position sensor so it knows when its in gear or not
The s&s has a gear position sensor so it knows when its in gear or not