Dear all
After 11 years of troublefree ownership and only 290.000 km, my '05 Stilo MW 1.9JTD 115 developped a sudden and fatal problem.
The engine died suddenly, at idle. No way to start again.
No noise, no smoke, no rattle, no message. It just died, exactly as if you switch it off with the key. So I had the vehicle towed home. The car has been working fine until it stops.
Last service was oil change, engine mount replacement and headlamps restoration (faded plastic), a few weeks ago, involving a battery removal. (all performed by myself)
Of course I know the usual culprit (TDC sensor) ... BUT .maybe things are not that simple..
with most of the cases described, you're supposed to be able to start later, when eveything have cooled down a bit.
On my Stilo, no way. The car have been sitting since. Engine will simply not start under cranking. No misfire, no hesitation or so,nothing happens, exactly as the injectors were not driven...
Also, i don't remember any "Loose connection" message on display when engine stalled, or maybe I didnt'pay attention
For the basic checks (no tools):
- No other issue. Everything works as it should (signals, ventilation, wipers, lights door lock, power window etc..)
- Battery is OK, strong. Starter motor runs fine, low pressure fuel pump working (noise) with IGN On
- Disconnected MAF: NO change
- Tried second key: NO change
I hooked MES, and DTC reading shows nothing apart the usual preheating DTC, which I have been living with for ages. Glow Plugs are original to the car (15 y.o)
NO expected Synchonization DTC between CPS / TDC
Quick parameters reading with MES:
- When cranking it build up a pressure > 360 b, so I suppose that the cambelt is still present and drives a working H.P pump...
- Key is read, starting is allowed (Immobilizer unlocked)
So for now I'm a bit confused.:idea:
For a living, I've been a technical trainer for 10 years in automotive industry (Mercedes/Chrysler/Renault)...ruling diagnostic training sessions for workshop technicians. Back in the days, I used to work in a fully equipped workshop. Now the car is just sitting in the street, in front of the home. It makes a huge difference! It was 10 years ago, but I still don't need a course about CR system.
Just field experience and feedback when logic do not fully apply.
Thank you for your inputs
Best regards
Sebastien
After 11 years of troublefree ownership and only 290.000 km, my '05 Stilo MW 1.9JTD 115 developped a sudden and fatal problem.
The engine died suddenly, at idle. No way to start again.
No noise, no smoke, no rattle, no message. It just died, exactly as if you switch it off with the key. So I had the vehicle towed home. The car has been working fine until it stops.
Last service was oil change, engine mount replacement and headlamps restoration (faded plastic), a few weeks ago, involving a battery removal. (all performed by myself)
Of course I know the usual culprit (TDC sensor) ... BUT .maybe things are not that simple..
with most of the cases described, you're supposed to be able to start later, when eveything have cooled down a bit.
On my Stilo, no way. The car have been sitting since. Engine will simply not start under cranking. No misfire, no hesitation or so,nothing happens, exactly as the injectors were not driven...
Also, i don't remember any "Loose connection" message on display when engine stalled, or maybe I didnt'pay attention
For the basic checks (no tools):
- No other issue. Everything works as it should (signals, ventilation, wipers, lights door lock, power window etc..)
- Battery is OK, strong. Starter motor runs fine, low pressure fuel pump working (noise) with IGN On
- Disconnected MAF: NO change
- Tried second key: NO change
I hooked MES, and DTC reading shows nothing apart the usual preheating DTC, which I have been living with for ages. Glow Plugs are original to the car (15 y.o)
NO expected Synchonization DTC between CPS / TDC
Quick parameters reading with MES:
- When cranking it build up a pressure > 360 b, so I suppose that the cambelt is still present and drives a working H.P pump...
- Key is read, starting is allowed (Immobilizer unlocked)
So for now I'm a bit confused.:idea:
For a living, I've been a technical trainer for 10 years in automotive industry (Mercedes/Chrysler/Renault)...ruling diagnostic training sessions for workshop technicians. Back in the days, I used to work in a fully equipped workshop. Now the car is just sitting in the street, in front of the home. It makes a huge difference! It was 10 years ago, but I still don't need a course about CR system.
Just field experience and feedback when logic do not fully apply.
Thank you for your inputs
Best regards
Sebastien
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