Tuning Samco vs GSR

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Tuning Samco vs GSR

For a Moderator, you dont seem to be able to remain impartial.

It is obvious that you have an interest in the GSR products, Maybe you should leave your comments out of these threads, especially as it may influence the decisions of others.

And another thing, do you think that you could add some pics of Cinquecentos and Seicentos to your Signature instead of Rabbits. I dont mid your posts, but the pics of Rabbits are getting a little tiresome. Thank you :)
 
For a Moderator, you dont seem to be able to remain impartial.

i am remaining impartial, i don't have any connection with GSR or any other tuning company, I've made my own kits and used gsr kits. i attend many rr days and see results of many home made kits, gsr kits and other branded kits.
I go to these meets because i am a moderator here and to pass on what i see and learn there to others.

a forum mod has the job of making sure the forum rules are kept, they dont have to remain silent and not join in discutions.

you get the input of a lot of people with different ideas on here for free, more so than some other places that you have to pay for.

people here including staff can post to praise, or belittle other products or services, or any company, as long as they have First hand experience of those products or services.
 
The fact that you have seen photos of the "new" GSR kit speaks with more volume than the comment you have just made.

Your statement about staff having the ability to belittle any product on the basis that you have first hand experience is contradictory of your previous posts. I do not recall you having first hand experience of the product that i am producing as a Group Buy, however you make comments about it.

Dave, decide which rule set you are following and try sticking to it as you are currently losing any credibility that you may have previously commanded.
 
And another thing, do you think that you could add some pics of Cinquecentos and Seicentos to your Signature instead of Rabbits. I dont mid your posts, but the pics of Rabbits are getting a little tiresome. Thank you :)

dave isnt a cento mod, rather the punto/supermod or something like that

As for the rabbits it is only one rabbit in a variety of poses and it is the FF mascot

Anyone can have what they want in their sig within reason and its up to them, if you dont like it then its tough im afraid, im not so keen all the silly idea smilies in your sig when one is suffiecent to make the point, but i get on with it
 
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The fact that you have seen photos of the "new" GSR kit speaks with more volume than the comment you have just made.

Your statement about staff having the ability to belittle any product on the basis that you have first hand experience is contradictory of your previous posts. I do not recall you having first hand experience of the product that i am producing as a Group Buy, however you make comments about it.

Dave, decide which rule set you are following and try sticking to it as you are currently losing any credibility that you may have previously commanded.
where did i say i had seen a photo?

you asked a question if the new kit was like the thing you had made, and i answered, although you must have known it want nothing like what you have made as you have just made a silicone bob and added bits of waste water pipe, an gsr have a complete kit made out of silicone.

don't make posts just to try an stir stuff up if you don't want a reply.
and then start to attack the forum mascot who is dead now.

the thread is to compare making a kit out of bits from samco or use a gsr, hence the title. as i have done both i can comment on both
 
dave isnt a cento mod, rather the punto/supermod or something like that

As for the rabbits it is only one rabbit in a variety of poses and it is the FF mascot

Anyone can have what they want in their sig within reason and its up to them, if you dont like it then its tough im afraid, im not so keen all the silly idea smilies in your sig when one is suffiecent to make the point, but i get on with it

:yeahthat:
 
Sounds a bit like the one that i have made.

I wonder where the idea came from!

I don't copy and I don't need to copy. This is rather what you and RobW did when you made 'your own' design based on a cut GSR and a bit of carbon fibre elbow.

The idea is as old as throttle bodies. You will find this design on the Bosch K-jetronic as well as the L-Jetronic, which means you will find it in many cars from the 70s and early 80s.

Nothing like a biased Mod to keep the field uneven.

Better being biased than trying to appear squeeky clean when having a hidden agenda. It is obvious that you and RobW have common interest in everything you do here. Your 'generous' development work for the benefit of the the members without any benefit for yourself doesn't sell very well when RobW comes up with some shoddy attempts to create group buys.

Is it just me, or does this not make any sense? If some "noob" didn't save the data, why does it matter that the hard drive died three years ago?

Stick to the facts and stop trying to read anything into that is not there. I am very sensitive to Gestapo methods of deliberate misrepresentation of facts. I am not warning you again.

So if the cost to make the whole kit is "not much higher," then why didnt you make the whole kit out of silicone in the first place?

You just answered your own question.

For a Moderator, you dont seem to be able to remain impartial.

Hold the thief says the thief while trying to run away and hiding its true identity.

It is obvious that you have an interest in the GSR products, Maybe you should leave your comments out of these threads, especially as it may influence the decisions of others.

You have an interest against GSR products. You and RobW try to influence people. If anything is not going along the linesof thinking of 'Il presidente' of club cento the people are ousted whether it is GSR or any other topic.


And another thing, do you think that you could add some pics of Cinquecentos and Seicentos to your Signature instead of Rabbits. I dont mid your posts, but the pics of Rabbits are getting a little tiresome. Thank you :)

This is another insult on someone to try getting at. If you don't like his signature you can always put him on your ignore list or leave the forum.


The fact that you have seen photos of the "new" GSR kit speaks with more volume than the comment you have just made.

Get your facts right and stop fabricating 'facts'. A lot of people are shown what is going on with GSR products.

Your statement about staff having the ability to belittle any product on the basis that you have first hand experience is contradictory of your previous posts. I do not recall you having first hand experience of the product that i am producing as a Group Buy, however you make comments about it.

You are the one who started belittling on the basis that you tested it with some subjective impression. You neither have any long term test to show, nor any rr comparison, nor any quarte mile comparisons, nor any track time comparisons, nor any field testing.

Dave, decide which rule set you are following and try sticking to it as you are currently losing any credibility that you may have previously commanded.

Before you preach make sure you do it right yourself first!
 
I don't copy and I don't need to copy. This is rather what you and RobW did when you made 'your own' design based on a cut GSR and a bit of carbon fibre elbow.

for the record the prototype kit i made which ended up on ADZ182's Cinq was manufactured from quality parts sourced from Forge Motorsport and did not include any recycled 'GSR' components.
The reason the kit was not marketed was that the cost of parts was £100 making it not commercially viable for the target market.

Forge have now developed their own range of induction kits and they are good quality IMO

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMIND01
 
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for the record the prototype kit i made which ended up on ADZ182's Cinq was manufactured from quality parts sourced from Forge Motorsport and did not include any recycled 'GSR' components.
The reason the kit was not marketed was that the cost of parts was £100 making it not commercially viable for the target market.

Forge have now developed their own range of induction kits and they are good quality IMO

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMIND01

I am happy for you that you can handle trying to believe your own stories. A lot of people don't believe them anymore as there is too many variations.

People would have some respect for you if you weren't pretending that much. You need a reality check. People aren't that stupid.

And it would be good if you stop bringing with your friend points into the threads that haven't got anything to do with the topic in the first place.

This constant urge to put yourself (both of you) in the lime light clearly points to an inferiority complex. No need to push this on anyone here.
 
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I am happy for you that you can handle trying to believe your own stories. A lot of people don't believe them anymore as there is too many variations.

People would have some respect for you if you weren't pretending that much. You need a reality check. People aren't that stupid.

I am bored with your riddles and arguing online with you Peter :bang:
 
I am bored with your riddles and arguing online with you Peter :bang:

You usually start it all and you usually continue. Just shut up forever and you won't be able to start arguing. I only responding to your rubbish.

And why are you reading it when you are bored to do so. Another RobW contradiction? And why do you have so often to go and spam other threads with your friend?

Get back on topic or just shut up!
 
You usually start it all and you usually continue. Just shut up forever and you won't be able to start arguing. I only responding to your rubbish.

And why are you reading it when you are bored to do so. Another RobW contradiction? And why do you have so often to go and spam other threads with your friend?

Get back on topic or just shut up!

I have no reason to shut up Peter while you are still spouting your rubbish and when you mention my name I have freedom of speech to respond :nono:

A quick look at your profile reveals you are still producing poor products and letting your customers down by taking money for things you cannot supply :ROFLMAO:

2 example from this year alone:

https://www.fiatforum.com/members/oldschool/revelli/

https://www.fiatforum.com/members/oldschool/sandybee/
 
I have no reason to shut up Peter while you are still spouting your rubbish and when you mention my name I have freedom of speech to respond :nono:

A quick look at your profile reveals you are still producing poor products and letting your customers down by taking money for things you cannot supply :ROFLMAO:

2 example from this year alone:

https://www.fiatforum.com/members/oldschool/revelli/

https://www.fiatforum.com/members/oldschool/sandybee/

i beg to differ,i politely hinted at keeping the thread on topic
which was GSR v Samco (the title is a hint) yet it seems people ignored this
so either step away or keep it on topic
 
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I have no reason to shut up Peter while you are still spouting your rubbish and when you mention my name I have freedom of speech to respond :nono:

A quick look at your profile reveals you are still producing poor products and letting your customers down by taking money for things you cannot supply :ROFLMAO:

2 example from this year alone:

https://www.fiatforum.com/members/oldschool/revelli/

https://www.fiatforum.com/members/oldschool/sandybee/

The first one mentioned still can't prove that paymen t has gone through to me. RobW lie no. can't remember

The second one got 2 test hoses delivered and got his money back less than 12 hours after he delivered the bank details, which you can read in the topic you quoted yourself. I never got the parts back. RobW lie number can't remember + 1

I give you a better one: RobW went to Red Dot getting his car mapped, going on a test drive before paying and never returned. Then he claimed Red Dot said he doesn't paying. Didn't know that Red Dot is a charity.

I learned from you. I supplied you didn't pay. Now I waitfor payment to come through before i deliver.

You are not factual, and your opinion is spouting lies. You mislead people on forums for your financial gain and your ego. And you are still off topic.
 
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i beg to differ,i politely hinted at keeping the thread on topic
which was GSR v Samco (the title is a hint) yet it seems people ignorewd this
so either step away or keep it on topic

:yeahthat: if people cant get proof from their bank that they paid the money a kit cant get sent. kits don't get sent to people before funds are cleared no more, as too many didn't pay, that not only leaves peter out of pocket but makes the forum look bad too, as people was trusted as members of ff to send money after.
 
Question to Todger... are Samco offering to make an induction kit for the cento? Either SPI or MPI? Just a one off for you or make a batch?

Samco will do what you want them to do. They won't make induction kits. They make hoses up to spec. You will have to either suppla the tool to them or have to pay them for having it made by the company making their tooling. You are better off supplying your own tool, which will provide you with the goods much quicker.
 
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