Tuning Samco vs GSR

[xman]

yer id like a remap but iv got to sort a spacer for the 40mm throttle body first but trickie dosnt seem to be around any more would the normal plastic spacer bored out too 40mm be ok ?

 

[Dan]

yes will be fine for now, just make sure its flat. Dan

 

[Oldschool]

I don't want to argue over who is right and who's wrong but at the end of the day I have the kit here (on my car mind) to measure.

Again it is either because my car was one of the first to have the kit or it's just warped and fowled over time.

I don't know as I was not the original owner of the car, flame me.

Thanks

And I had 2 cars with the same kit, have 5 hoses and the the tool to make the hoses. I should think I would know.

 

[Todger182]

The kit in question is mine. I've had another look on your site and mine doesn't look anywhere near as smooth as the ones shown. Could just be down to the ageing. If it's from when you first started making them perhaps it's time to change, as the sillicon might have seen better days.

I'm going to take the kit off and have a look inside, if it's still smooth and ridge free then I know then it's just a silly cosmetic issue.

It's a long shot but do you remember fitting and dyno'ing my car? If you want the Reg etc i'll send you it in a PM.

Thanks

 

[Todger182]

I've taken it off to have a look and a new kit is definatly in order, there is some minor damage to the inside and there is some "bumps" in there, However they are smooth bumps, and also there is some cuts and even what looks like a fingerprint inside. Also the tubing has ovaled slightly .

I'm not having a go at anyone, particularly you oldschool. I apologise if I am insulting anyone.

Thanks

 

[Oldschool]

The kit in question is mine. I've had another look on your site and mine doesn't look anywhere near as smooth as the ones shown. Could just be down to the ageing. If it's from when you first started making them perhaps it's time to change, as the sillicon might have seen better days.

I'm going to take the kit off and have a look inside, if it's still smooth and ridge free then I know then it's just a silly cosmetic issue.

It's a long shot but do you remember fitting and dyno'ing my car? If you want the Reg etc i'll send you it in a PM.

Thanks

I can check the reg, but might not be able to come up with anything if the car has been done over 3 years ago because some noob didn't save the data on the rollers. The hard drive died 3 years ago.

 

[arc]

An issue that was always cited with the gsr kit was the bob, and it was constantly stated that it was not restrictive. I don't understand why its now been redeveloped for a market which has surely peaked, especially if it was never an issue ?

 

[Oldschool]

An issue that was always cited with the gsr kit was the bob, and it was constantly stated that it was not restrictive. I don't understand why its now been redeveloped for a market which has surely peaked, especially if it was never an issue ?

It is always possible to improve. And at the time the version with the bop was designed the bop was around 4.50 pounds. The bop is now over 17 pounds plus Vat. If the whole kit is made from one piece of silicone the cost of the induction is not much higher.

 

[xman]

so it sounds like the silicone hose goes over the whole throttle body
i would of thought this would increase the perfomance over the mk1 kit but i guess it depends on how high the bit over the throttle body is
a picture would be nice

 

[signwerx]

Sounds a bit like the one that i have made.
Something like this......

I wonder where the idea came from!

 

[dave]

Sounds a bit like the one that i have made.
Something like this......

I wonder where the idea came from!

its nothing like that the mould has been around for ages, just people wanted the cheaper version. it also has a place for the breather hose, so you don't get done by environmental agency

 

[signwerx]

Nothing like a biased Mod to keep the field uneven.

 

[custard]

so it sounds like the silicone hose goes over the whole throttle body
i would of thought this would increase the perfomance over the mk1 kit but i guess it depends on how high the bit over the throttle body is
a picture would be nice

i would guess this

 

[signwerx]

Custard, i think they were referring to the SPI kit.

I may be wrong.........

 

[custard]

Custard, i think they were referring to the SPI kit.

I may be wrong.........

yeah but it would be the same(ish) design i assume

 

[signwerx]

You never know.......

 

[signwerx]

I can check the reg, but might not be able to come up with anything if the car has been done over 3 years ago because some noob didn't save the data on the rollers. The hard drive died 3 years ago.

Is it just me, or does this not make any sense? If some "noob" didn't save the data, why does it matter that the hard drive died three years ago?

 

[signwerx]

It is always possible to improve. And at the time the version with the bop was designed the bop was around 4.50 pounds. The bop is now over 17 pounds plus Vat. If the whole kit is made from one piece of silicone the cost of the induction is not much higher.

So if the cost to make the whole kit is "not much higher," then why didnt you make the whole kit out of silicone in the first place?

 

[custard]

So if the cost to make the whole kit is "not much higher," then why didnt you make the whole kit out of silicone in the first place?

lets not get bogged down on whys
if someone makes something in one design its up to them
times and ideas change
i used to produce some xbox modding stuff and my designs changed depending on costs/methods as time went along
we seem to be heading off on a tangent

 

[dave]

Nothing like a biased Mod to keep the field uneven.

you asked a question, and i gave an answer, not my fault if its not the answer you hoped for :shrug:

its made for cinq not sink

Is it just me, or does this not make any sense? If some "noob" didn't save the data, why does it matter that the hard drive died three years ago?

that is exactly why it matters, if he had remembered to back it up to the memory stick, then it wont have got lost when the hard-drive failed