Technical Punto JTD HGT parts supply??

[chevychase]

Hello all, i have a Punto Mk2b HGT JTD and have had it for 7 yrs or so. Through my ownership simple maintenance has been made complicated by the lack of the bespoke parts only used on this model. Does anyone know of any parts suppliers that I might not be aware of? In the past I have used Lancia MUSA engine mount from the Netherlands s, imported oil cooler pipes from Italian eBay seller and adapted Transit inner CV boots all because the original parts are unavailable in the UK.

I now need to replace a gear cable linkage PT no. 55194344 but can't find anywhere. Would a similar cable from a 1.2 model be made to fit? Surely if it is slightly longer the excess could be lost in the routing, longer bends etc. The gear lever will only push and pull the designed amount. Opinions and thoughts please.

 

[AndyRKett]

Hello all, i have a Punto Mk2b HGT JTD and have had it for 7 yrs or so. Through my ownership simple maintenance has been made complicated by the lack of the bespoke parts only used on this model. Does anyone know of any parts suppliers that I might not be aware of? In the past I have used Lancia MUSA engine mount from the Netherlands s, imported oil cooler pipes from Italian eBay seller and adapted Transit inner CV boots all because the original parts are unavailable in the UK.

I now need to replace a gear cable linkage PT no. 55194344 but can't find anywhere. Would a similar cable from a 1.2 model be made to fit? Surely if it is slightly longer the excess could be lost in the routing, longer bends etc. The gear lever will only push and pull the designed amount. Opinions and thoughts please.

Have you tried fiat for the gear cable. I bought one myself for my HGT multijet about 12 years ago now, direct from fiat. There was literally no one else making parts for this car back then. So the Fiat dealer was the only option.

 

[judderbar]

Hello all, i have a Punto Mk2b HGT JTD and have had it for 7 yrs or so. Through my ownership simple maintenance has been made complicated by the lack of the bespoke parts only used on this model. Does anyone know of any parts suppliers that I might not be aware of? In the past I have used Lancia MUSA engine mount from the Netherlands s, imported oil cooler pipes from Italian eBay seller and adapted Transit inner CV boots all because the original parts are unavailable in the UK.

I now need to replace a gear cable linkage PT no. 55194344 but can't find anywhere. Would a similar cable from a 1.2 model be made to fit? Surely if it is slightly longer the excess could be lost in the routing, longer bends etc. The gear lever will only push and pull the designed amount. Opinions and thoughts please.

I suppose the hard part is going to happen if the gearbox needs a different amount of travel to operate because the maximum amount of exposed end of the cable limits the total available travel used to operate the gearbox. You can operate the gear levers to select the gears with your hands. If you can tell me what amount of travel you need to operate the gears I can do the same on my 1.2 petrol. a photo of your hgt gear selector will help see what is needed.

If you photograph your broken cable it will help to see how your cable differs from a 1.2 punto cable since photos of 1.2 punto cables are available on the web.

 

[AndyRKett]

I found these pictures of the old cable from mine that snapped. This was 12 years ago so I can't give any measurements.

 

[chevychase]

Thanks for the replies and going to the effort of posting photos. My cable hadn't broken as such but had become seized/sticky in the sleeve.i took it out and managed to create a "bath" to totally immerse the gearbox end of the cable in oil for a couple of days over the weekend. And have managed to get enough beyond the internal seal to lubricate and free up the cable. Refitted this afternoon and now have a slow centering gear stick. It'll do until I find a replacement somewhere. The cable measured 1125mm from ball joint to ball joint, 955mm from sleeve end to sleeve end. I'll pick up a more common 1.2 cable from somewhere and see if it is close, the working end is adjustable so may be able to increase the rod length with a barrel nut if it proves slightly shorter.

 

[varesecrazy]

Thanks for the replies and going to the effort of posting photos. My cable hadn't broken as such but had become seized/sticky in the sleeve.i took it out and managed to create a "bath" to totally immerse the gearbox end of the cable in oil for a couple of days over the weekend. And have managed to get enough beyond the internal seal to lubricate and free up the cable. Refitted this afternoon and now have a slow centering gear stick. It'll do until I find a replacement somewhere. The cable measured 1125mm from ball joint to ball joint, 955mm from sleeve end to sleeve end. I'll pick up a more common 1.2 cable from somewhere and see if it is close, the working end is adjustable so may be able to increase the rod length with a barrel nut if it proves slightly shorter.

With the part numbers.. There is often several generations up 'updates'.
Worth searching them all

 

[AndyRKett]

Thanks for the replies and going to the effort of posting photos. My cable hadn't broken as such but had become seized/sticky in the sleeve.i took it out and managed to create a "bath" to totally immerse the gearbox end of the cable in oil for a couple of days over the weekend. And have managed to get enough beyond the internal seal to lubricate and free up the cable. Refitted this afternoon and now have a slow centering gear stick. It'll do until I find a replacement somewhere. The cable measured 1125mm from ball joint to ball joint, 955mm from sleeve end to sleeve end. I'll pick up a more common 1.2 cable from somewhere and see if it is close, the working end is adjustable so may be able to increase the rod length with a barrel nut if it proves slightly shorter.

This was exactly the symptoms mine had before it broke, the cable was breaking down inside the sleeve and it wouldn’t move smoothly anymore, you can see in the picture there is a kink in the sleeve and I think it was a fault with the Diesel HGT that the bend in the cable and length of the cable made it too tight and eventually it would kink the cable and pinch the cable inside the sleeve causing it to fray and eventually break

 

[puntodeltathema]

Does the diesel HGT have the long cylindrical pivot on top of the gearbox for the left-right gate motion (as the petrol HGT does)? If so the plastic bushes in these close up with corrosion at the ends of the cylindrical bit, causing stiffness in motion. May be that rather than the cable?

 

[chevychase]

That's a good suggestion as I had those issues on my Coupe, but this was definitely corrosion inside the sheath. In the end after searching the net for pt. no.s I found a new old stock pair of earlier gen cables on German Ebay. Cost me about £60 each but I now have a sublime gear change. 55187582 and 55187581 for future reference.

 

[Rimo]

Hello all, i have a Punto Mk2b HGT JTD and have had it for 7 yrs or so. Through my ownership simple maintenance has been made complicated by the lack of the bespoke parts only used on this model. Does anyone know of any parts suppliers that I might not be aware of? In the past I have used Lancia MUSA engine mount from the Netherlands s, imported oil cooler pipes from Italian eBay seller and adapted Transit inner CV boots all because the original parts are unavailable in the UK.

I now need to replace a gear cable linkage PT no. 55194344 but can't find anywhere. Would a similar cable from a 1.2 model be made to fit? Surely if it is slightly longer the excess could be lost in the routing, longer bends etc. The gear lever will only push and pull the designed amount. Opinions and thoughts please.

Hi. I have similar problem like you. But my cable broke. I can not find it anywhere in Slovakia. Can you please help me? I will ne very thankful. Here is my email for conversation: [email protected]

 

[varesecrazy]

Hi. I have similar problem like you. But my cable broke. I can not find it anywhere in Slovakia. Can you please help me? I will ne very thankful. Here is my email for conversation: [email protected]

They listed the older number parts they used..

Are you using ePER to check the numbers?

 

[Rimo]

I checked ePER, there was a different numbers, but also this parts are not available at Slovakia. I need someone who can order it and send it to me. I will pay to that bank account. Because Google found some parts on France ebay for example, but I can not order it to Slovakia. Of course, if someone is willing. I realy need that part…..

 

[chevychase]

I checked ePER, there was a different numbers, but also this parts are not available at Slovakia. I need someone who can order it and send it to me. I will pay to that bank account. Because Google found some parts on France ebay for example, but I can not order it to Slovakia. Of course, if someone is willing. I realy need that part…..

I have been searching in all my usual places but the only place that seems to indicate they have stock is a Ukrainian company. I don't even know if they will deliver to Slovakia.
What is the French eBay item no. As nothing compatible showed up for me.

 

[Rimo]

Hmmmm, can you send me link?

 

[chevychase]

This is the link: https://avto.pro/part-55187581-FIAT-689/ they seem to deliver to Slovakia, but I haven't converted the cost so don't know if it is expensive.

Edit: works out to £135

 

[Rimo]

Yes it is to expensive, but you know my car is not working without it

 

[Rimo]

You ordered something from this site?

 

[chevychase]

No, never used that site, but it is payment on delivery so not much to lose by trying. They might even say they don't have the part once you order.

 

[HgtBill]

I've got a petrol HGT & the cables from a JTD fitted it (the whole gear selector was available on ebay going cheap). Just gives you a few more options.

 

[chevychase]

I've had a std JTD before and the gearbox is very different. The JTD HGT gearbox is a C605, the same case as fitted to Astras and Stilos. The gear selector mech is kinda unique and the normal HGT or JTD cables won't reach. Though you are right the std JTD cables are compatible with the 1.8 HGT.