General Panda spark and fuel but does not fire up.. HELP

[BobbyParus]

Good morning all,

I’m new to this forum so I hope someone will be able to help with my problem.. I got my daughter a 2007 panda automatic for her to learn driving..

The car has been working fine, but then has failed to start… cranks over but does not fire up… the local garage has confirmed

The timing is right
It has spark
It has fuel
Decent pressure test results
Immobiliser light goes off after the key in inserted (both keys)

Just doesn’t want to fire up… fault codes state circuit fault with cam shaft sensor.. which has been replaced and wiring checked…

Can someone please help.

 

[MrMagoo]

Hi,

Please list the fault codes..

 

[BobbyParus]

Hi Mr Magoo,

The following error codes are present

P0340 camshaft position sensor A circuit bank 1 or single sensor

P0335 crankshaft position sensor A circuit


Both have been changed

 

[koalar]

What are the plugs like

Are they damp with fuel

You have fuel, you have spark, you have compression, the timings right, you have a working engine, probably best to check everything yourself

Does your panda have a rev counter

Do you have a scan tool of your own

 

[BobbyParus]

Hi, yes the scantool just reports errors with the cam and crank sensors, but both have been replaced and timing checked..

 

[BobbyParus]

The sparks are slightly dam after cranking a few times..

 

[koalar]

With the scan tool

While cranking

Does the rpm read on the scan tool

Does the rev counter needle move on the dash

 

[koalar]

What are we calling decent compression

 

[MrMagoo]

Panda does not like low voltage.
I know the engine turns over but have you tried jumping starting it? Also, the engine earth strap can cause issues.

 

[BobbyParus]

Hi, I have fully charged and tried jumping the car with another vehicle too… also both earth straps have been checked and cleaned..

Starting to thinking this is a dead cause

 

[varesecrazy]

The earth straps can rot internally, still in one piece but fail to pass current

A jump lead SHOULD rule out that

My 1.1 jumped the timing.. By 7 teeth

Same basic non-start, but not aware there were any errors (probably because there was no upper sensor)

Whats the History to this..?
Owned it long.. Covered how many miles this year

It may help paint a picture..

 

[koalar]

With the scan tool

While cranking

Does the rpm read on the scan tool

Does the rev counter needle move on the dash

And

 

[koalar]

What are we calling decent compression

And

 

[koalar]

Without any information I can not come to any conclusions

 

[BobbyParus]

And

Hi the compression was 150 on all cylinders

 

[koalar]

Hi the compression was 150 on all cylinders

That's very low

Should be 220 cold on a reasonable battery