Hi, Does anybody have any idea where gearbox & idler PTU fill/drain plugs are for a panda cross 4x4 2015,looked on other threads and all different to panda cross. gearbox fill is i think on front of gearbox, facing forward, there is a drain at the rear at bottom of ptu. So ive only found two instead of four,two different spec oils are in handbook, so expect four locations ? any help appreciated
General panda cross gearbox & ptu fill/drain location ?
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General panda cross gearbox & ptu fill/drain location ?
Here’s the fill/level check and drain locations on my gearbox… this is a Mulijet but expect the TA will be pretty similar.
Post in thread 'Manual Gearbox Oil Filler & Drain Plug Locations.'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/manual-gearbox-oil-filler-drain-plug-locations.497039/post-4657568
And, you can see the PTU drain in that same photo, lower centre - the finned unit the exhaust goes round is the PTU. The filler for that is on the drivers side about half way up.
Post in thread 'Manual Gearbox Oil Filler & Drain Plug Locations.'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/manual-gearbox-oil-filler-drain-plug-locations.497039/post-4657568
And, you can see the PTU drain in that same photo, lower centre - the finned unit the exhaust goes round is the PTU. The filler for that is on the drivers side about half way up.
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This post shows the side view of the PTU, looking in from the drivers side (RHD) with drain and fill plugs labelled
Post in thread '2015 cross PTU filler and drain plug locations?'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/2015-cross-ptu-filler-and-drain-plug-locations.493120/post-4632272
Post in thread '2015 cross PTU filler and drain plug locations?'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/2015-cross-ptu-filler-and-drain-plug-locations.493120/post-4632272
And… the photo in this post shows how to open the PTU filler, using a hex bit in a ratchet handle with extension to clear the exhaust. It also details a supplier of the PTU oil
Post in thread '2015 cross PTU filler and drain plug locations?'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/2015-cross-ptu-filler-and-drain-plug-locations.493120/post-4669890
Post in thread '2015 cross PTU filler and drain plug locations?'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/2015-cross-ptu-filler-and-drain-plug-locations.493120/post-4669890
many thanks Herts (pete,)but unfortunately all the positions you show are not from my model (petrol). Have you managed to change gearbox oil and ptu on your diesel model,i will take photo,s tomorrow to show set up,regards cala
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Different engine but I’d expect the PTU unit to be the same - and yes I changed that with the car raised level. Not drained gearbox but did top up ok. My older petrol 4x4 had very similar looking drain and fill plugs so again expect yours to be similar with TA engine
Looking back, this old thread seems to agree that the TwinAir doesn’t have a separate PTU unit - and so doesn’t show an oil spec for it. My old (2005) 4x4 was the same - built into the gearbox itself.
Post in thread '2016 4x4 twinair gearbox oil change'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/2016-4x4-twinair-gearbox-oil-change.487843/post-4600366
Post in thread '2016 4x4 twinair gearbox oil change'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/2016-4x4-twinair-gearbox-oil-change.487843/post-4600366
Just to confirm, the TwinAir 4x4 version doesn't have a separate PTU. The transfer unit is integral to the gearbox/front diff on the TA version and shares the gearbox oil.
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From a recent comment in another thread…
Gearbox/Differential (*1700ml) *for 0.9 TwinAir Turbo
Petronas Tutela Transmission Technyx 75W-85 (API GL4)
(From here:
Post in thread 'Panda 4x4 TA (85hp Wild) -120K periodic maintenance advice?'
https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/p...riodic-maintenance-advice.504495/post-4712362)
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There is not a separate PTU on the 4x4 with a TwinAir engine. It’s contained within the gearbox/front diff — which is why it takes more oil. Only the diesel 4x4 has separate PTU.
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