Not that it really matters but the new MJ 4x4 Cross emitts 143g/km co2 because of 4x4 and extra weight I guess so will be in £120 tax band.
As for defecting it's still a Panda.........but not as we know it Jim........
So do you guys think I am correct in assuming if Fiat have engineered the Cross for RHD, they will also have done the same for the regular Fiat 4x4 Panda? That would be the car I was interested in.
I too would prefer the normal 4x4 with the Multijet engine... Maybe one day...
Hurooo Chris. I am a long time Fiat fan, although I have been away from the fold for a while. A 4 x 4 MJ Panda would be a brilliant second car. I could use it for when I am working up in Scotland, Wales and the North East during the Winter and feel safe that I shouldn’t get stuck (assuming the roads aren’t blocked by other traffic)Hello hello Amanda! Is everyone defecting?
Chris
Hurooo Chris. I am a long time Fiat fan, although I have been away from the fold for a while. A 4 x 4 MJ Panda would be a brilliant second car. I could use it for when I am working up in Scotland, Wales and the North East during the Winter and feel safe that I shouldn’t get stuck (assuming the roads aren’t blocked by other traffic)
The Cross does have higher ground clearance as standard. The classic 4x4 has the rear drive attached to the back of the gearbox and a lever to select either 4 or 2wd but doubt the cross will be the same
I've always liked the idea of panda 4x4, a capable unpretensious car. But totally unsure as to why they didn't put the 1.2 16v in it. Its not like the car would be ruined by an engine out of keeping but a 18 second 0-60 is not so much slow as unsafe. Joining the motorway or pulling out quickly becomes dangerous when a vehicle is that slow. While 80bhp might only take it down to 12-14 sec 0-60 mark it would make a difference to drivability and not use massive amounts of fuel more and its not like the block is any bigger and the bottom end is the same so should fit on gearbox.
Towing weight is the same as the MJ panda then, thought it would be more on a 4x4?
On the original brochures and tech info for the 4x4/Cross it mentions that the ride hight for the Cross & standard 4x4 panda is 5cm of a difference (will try to hunt these out if I can)
But thanks for the info.....
OK looked again and it mentions as you say that the climbing and the Cross have the same ground clearance of 165mm whearas the Standard 4x4 is 160mm SO what is the standard 4x4 in the UK is it the climbing or just the 4x4? not that any of this really matters I suppose.
Will call the dealer on Mon to see if they have one in the showroom if so will take the MJ in to get serviced early (5900 miles) and at the same time try to get all the little faults corrected whilst having a look at the Cross and see if I can sort out a new finance package to sell the MJ and get a Cross.
Finally what is the little box on the front of the plastic piece that runs in the middle of the roof? is there an air vent added?
the 1.4 16v could easily fit the gearbox but it may be a little too powerful for the drive train the 1.2 16v is not curently in production for uk models as it would be too hard to make it euro 5 compliant infact it may be the last we see of that engine in the stiloI've always liked the idea of panda 4x4, a capable unpretensious car. But totally unsure as to why they didn't put the 1.2 16v in it. Its not like the car would be ruined by an engine out of keeping but a 18 second 0-60 is not so much slow as unsafe. Joining the motorway or pulling out quickly becomes dangerous when a vehicle is that slow. While 80bhp might only take it down to 12-14 sec 0-60 mark it would make a difference to drivability and not use massive amounts of fuel more and its not like the block is any bigger and the bottom end is the same so should fit on gearbox.
don't swear in here remember fiat used the 90hp variant also in gp and doblo so there was no need to swear atall please be careful in futureThey could have put in the 90hp 1.3 multijet that Vauxhall use in the corsa
new panda is surely big enough to take a 1.9 lump?... 150bhp 4x4 diesel panda :chin:
the 1.4 16v could easily fit the gearbox but it may be a little too powerful for the drive train the 1.2 16v is not curently in production for uk models as it would be too hard to make it euro 5 compliant infact it may be the last we see of that engine in the stilo
i should think the 75hp 1.4 8v would be suitable and bring the 0 to 60 down a tad without blowing up the diffs