Panda My dad bought me a fiat panda eco active 1.1 2010

[varesecrazy]

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Most modern fuel injection systems cut fuel delivery to zero when the engine is on the overrun. I've often wondered that if you slow down on the gears with the throttle closed - obviously avoiding a throttle "blip" as you downshift - whether you would save a worthwhile amount of fuel? Possibly saving brake linings too. Some might argue that gearbox wear will increase and, ultimately, the cost of a premature repair would cancel any saving but I don't lay any store by this as I've driven all my life slowing down on the gears and my cars typically go out to over 100,000 miles without much more by way of transmission repairs than the occasional new clutch being needed.

These factory fit brakes have now covered @58k

Will they get to 100k..?

Before they ban it from the road..??

 

[koalar]

Really..!!

I was choosing between 68 and 70db

Conti Eco 3 vs Eco 5

yes noticeable but not dramatic difference but every bit helps

I changed two front by two or three bB and noticed a difference. Not so much so when I changed the rears a year or so later


I also have them at quite a high pressure which helps with sound and economy at the cost of comfort.

the toyo nanos were the only cheap, economical with wet weather grip I could find.

If you eco drive they last well.


Eco tyre only make a difference at city driving speeds. No noticeable difference what so ever at motorway speeds. If you watch the computer regularly you will see an increase on your regular slow roads. I drive mixed some longer runs and it average out at about an extra 2mpg over the economy rated E tyres.

 

[koalar]

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These factory fit brakes have now covered @58k

Will they get to 100k..?

Before they ban it from the road..??

they look like they have had a hard life ? City driving ?

from memory they start at 11mm width with a min of 9mm so only 1mm wear per side permisable

 

[varesecrazy]

they look like they have had a hard life ? City driving ?

from memory they start at 11mm width with a min of 9mm so only 1mm wear per side permisable

Youve lost me there..

Pads are @50% worn

Ventilated discs are NOT 11mm wide
And these have little wear.. for 60k miles

 

[koalar]

Youve lost me there..

Pads are @50% worn

Ventilated discs are NOT 11mm wide
And these have little wear.. for 60k miles

I quoted my discs which are solid. Sorry

still looks close 1mm step which would put the disc close to the limit


I just had the wheels off a 77K miles 1.2 and the discs have only a fraction of the disc wear

although a photo can be deceiving

 

[jrkitching]

I just had the wheels off a 77K miles 1.2 and the discs have only a fraction of the disc wear

Unlikely to be the originals at that mileage.

 

[jrkitching]

These factory fit brakes have now covered @58k

They might; I'd say the pads might outlast the discs.

Most disc wear is down to corrosion (the discs rust slightly whenever the car is parked, and the rust comes off next time you drive it). So drivers who are very gentle on the brakes will see much reduced pad wear, but disc wear is based more on time and climate.

I generally need to replace discs and pads together, and usually get somwhere in the region of 60k out of a set.

 

[DaveMcT]

Back in the 1980s I bought a 2 years old Citroen BX with just 10,500 miles on the clock. It needed new rear discs because the originals where so pitted they were dangerous. The bad areas were pad sized so maybe it had been parked in a damp area. Everywhere else, the car was as new and served me well for 35,000 miles.

 

[koalar]

Unlikely to be the originals at that mileage.

Good point thats certainly a possibility as there is no history with this car


my previous Pandas had one change in 170K ish

 

[koalar]

here the bit that looks like over 1mm and micro radial cracks in the photo

but photos can be deceptive

 

[jrkitching]

here the bit that looks like over 1mm and micro radial cracks in the photo

For a definitive answer, you really need to measure across the working surfaces with a micrometer. If this is the first pad change, you need to replace the discs if more than half worn, or they'll be below the minimum thickness when the second set of pads wears out.

But from a practical consideration, discs (at least for the 1.2) are so cheap that you may as well replace if in any doubt. The pads will have an easier time breaking in and the increase in braking smoothness will repay the modest investment.

I've seen folks shred a new set of pads by fitting onto worn discs and not bedding them in properly.