Panda 2012+ Servicing my 2014 panda

[Herts Hillhopper]

I think @Darrenandrew might have stopped reading this thread (which has strayed off course a tad). That’s a shame as I think we all agree that changing the timing belt on this model* is prone to issues and best entrusted to someone very familiar with this engine. And that a more realistic budget figure (including a full service at the same time) is nearer £550.

A simple oil, oil filter and air filter change will be £200 or less, and this engine is more flexible with oil choices, compared to the rather fussy TwinAir variant.

(*With older versions of this engine was a much simpler task… which can lead to folk quoting a lower price, unaware of the fact it became more difficult and needed a special locking tool after it became a variable valve timing engine in 2014(?), which of course makes it more expensive)

 

[jrkitching]

after it became a variable valve timing engine in 2014(?)

The 69HP engine with VVT was used in the Mk3 Panda from mid 2010. All Mk4 1.2 Pandas have VVT.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

I think @Darrenandrew might have stopped reading this thread (which has strayed off course a tad). That’s a shame as I think we all agree that changing the timing belt on this model* is prone to issues and best entrusted to someone very familiar with this engine. And that a more realistic budget figure (including a full service at the same time) is nearer £550.

A simple oil, oil filter and air filter change will be £200 or less, and this engine is more flexible with oil choices, compared to the rather fussy TwinAir variant.

(*With older versions of this engine was a much simpler task… which can lead to folk quoting a lower price, unaware of the fact it became more difficult and needed a special locking tool after it became a variable valve timing engine in 2014(?), which of course makes it more expensive)

Absolutely. Re the engines which need the locking tools. This applies to any which don't have the timing marks on the camshaft pulley, not just the later 69hp VVT engine (fitted to the Mk3 169 model Panda from late 2010 onwards and all 1.2 500 models I think?) - Sorry jrk, I just saw your post about this.
Our 2010 1.2 169 model Panda, without VVT cam pulley, has no timing marks on it's cam pulley and can only be checked with the locking tools.

 

[jrkitching]

Our 2010 1.2 169 model Panda, without VVT cam pulley, has no timing marks on it's cam pulley and can only be checked with the locking tools.

Yes, you need the locking tools to check the timing on all the engines with no fixed timing marks, even on those engines which don't have VVT.

Though on the non-VVT engines, if you know the timing is correct before you start, you can make your own marks and change the belt without the tools, providing you don't loosen the cam sprocket.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Yes, you need the locking tools to check the timing on all the engines with no fixed timing marks, even on those engines which don't have VVT.

Though on the non-VVT engines, if you know the timing is correct before you start, you can make your own marks and change the belt without the tools, providing you don't loosen the cam sprocket.

Yup, I've done several in this way now, but you do need to be very sure the cam pulley is correctly fitted ie timed, so if it's an unknown engine you really need the tools so you can check before starting that the cam sprocket is correctly aligned to the camshaft. If it is then it greatly simplifies and speeds up the job

 

[The Panda Nut]

Just one word to mention - Upselling!

Dont mention the Badkinstani oil filter company....