Picked mine up off eBay. Pure luck as it was up for sale in the Punto HGT area.
Styling KC3 Project Silver
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Styling KC3 Project Silver
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I managed to pick up the new GSR induction hose today from Peter
(old School) and have fitted it on the B
I have still kept my green filter and is positioned in near enough the same position as before.
Havent had the chance for a real good spin yet. , but i might say there seems to be a little bit better response. Mid range torque is much better but not sure what exactly has made the difference, new exhaust or induction.
Guess both must help.
A rolling road will confirm but so far so good.
Some before and after pics:
(old School) and have fitted it on the B
I have still kept my green filter and is positioned in near enough the same position as before.
Havent had the chance for a real good spin yet. , but i might say there seems to be a little bit better response. Mid range torque is much better but not sure what exactly has made the difference, new exhaust or induction.
Guess both must help.
A rolling road will confirm but so far so good.
Some before and after pics:
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Looking good m8 and loads of $$ spent I bet. You need to paint your engine cover to match the blue of the pipework just to bring it all together.
OP
OP
Hi! Doc,
Yes, i will need to do something about that and paint the strut brace at the same time.
One thing, re getting a new rad. Do you think i should just get a new OMP or would it be best to have one made, Hence clearance issues of fans and cosmetic reasons too.
Think i will be ordering the supersprint rear silencer too, unless you know of something better.
Yes, i will need to do something about that and paint the strut brace at the same time.
One thing, re getting a new rad. Do you think i should just get a new OMP or would it be best to have one made, Hence clearance issues of fans and cosmetic reasons too.
Think i will be ordering the supersprint rear silencer too, unless you know of something better.
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Hi m8
I would love to have a rad made as I would have it only on the battery side of the engine bay so that it makes space for an intercooler and turbo later on. The rad would have to be thicker to help cool being that it would then be only half the size of the OEM rad.
An OEM rad is £140 but a one off rad would be more like £250 plus extra samco hoses and fan.
A Supersprint rear silencer would be cool but first would be the sports CAT if I was you.
The GSR kit looks good and fits in well with your samco set.
I would love to have a rad made as I would have it only on the battery side of the engine bay so that it makes space for an intercooler and turbo later on. The rad would have to be thicker to help cool being that it would then be only half the size of the OEM rad.
An OEM rad is £140 but a one off rad would be more like £250 plus extra samco hoses and fan.
A Supersprint rear silencer would be cool but first would be the sports CAT if I was you.
The GSR kit looks good and fits in well with your samco set.
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Any idea,s where i,d get a sports cat. and has any one tried them.
Wow KC, I cannot believe how quickly you are making progress!!
Let me know how you get on with the re-map?
Let me know how you get on with the re-map?
Hi KC
Give Europerformance.co.uk a call on 08700347030 as I think you can get one from them m8.
Little info on sports CATs below.
A Sports Cat which will be fully integrated into a large bore down pipe, has only 100-200 cpsi depending on application. Sports cats have an open area of between 75-85%, thus reducing back pressure substantially and increasing flow rates, all very desirable for extracting more performance, especially on turbocharged engines. Emission levels are maintained at legal limits by careful selection of the volume of the metallic substrate. Lamda probe positions remain unchanged from the original equipment.
Sport Hi-flow Sports Cats are made from a special stainless steel containing aluminium (called ‘Fecralloy’). This material was developed in England in the 1970’s specifically to provide resistance to oxidation at very high temperatures.
The material is used as a very thin strip (2 thousandths of an inch) and is coiled together to make a honeycomb structure. Because the metal strip is so thin, the honeycomb has a very low flow-obstruction. To reduce the flow-obstruction even further, the honeycomb is made with 100 or 200 ‘cells’ (i.e. channels) per square inch compared with 400 or 600 per square inch for a standard catalyst.
The result is that about 85% of the total cro ss-section is open. The honeycomb is held together by using a special nickel-based brazing material which is applied in a vacuum. The finished honeycomb is then coated with Aluminium Oxide, some rare earth metals and Platinum and Rhodium. The Platinum and Rhodium are applied at a rate of 25 grams per cubic foot, which compares with between 5 and 10 grams per cubic foot for typical US aftermarket items.
Give Europerformance.co.uk a call on 08700347030 as I think you can get one from them m8.
Little info on sports CATs below.
A Sports Cat which will be fully integrated into a large bore down pipe, has only 100-200 cpsi depending on application. Sports cats have an open area of between 75-85%, thus reducing back pressure substantially and increasing flow rates, all very desirable for extracting more performance, especially on turbocharged engines. Emission levels are maintained at legal limits by careful selection of the volume of the metallic substrate. Lamda probe positions remain unchanged from the original equipment.
Sport Hi-flow Sports Cats are made from a special stainless steel containing aluminium (called ‘Fecralloy’). This material was developed in England in the 1970’s specifically to provide resistance to oxidation at very high temperatures.
The material is used as a very thin strip (2 thousandths of an inch) and is coiled together to make a honeycomb structure. Because the metal strip is so thin, the honeycomb has a very low flow-obstruction. To reduce the flow-obstruction even further, the honeycomb is made with 100 or 200 ‘cells’ (i.e. channels) per square inch compared with 400 or 600 per square inch for a standard catalyst.
The result is that about 85% of the total cro ss-section is open. The honeycomb is held together by using a special nickel-based brazing material which is applied in a vacuum. The finished honeycomb is then coated with Aluminium Oxide, some rare earth metals and Platinum and Rhodium. The Platinum and Rhodium are applied at a rate of 25 grams per cubic foot, which compares with between 5 and 10 grams per cubic foot for typical US aftermarket items.
DTR are now doing a sports cat for the B. Check out the exhausts page on their site.
The shape of the cat housing is more of an issue than the cumbers of cells per square inch. A lot of the so called sports cats aren't really because they flow pretty badly due to poor cat housing design.
The best shape for a sports CAT is a long thin tube with nothing inside, kind of like a straight through pipe HEHHEHEHEHE
Supersport do a 'cat-less' front pipe for the b, if you were the dishonest type you could fit one and then just replace your cat for the MOT. We are all far too grown up and honest to do that though, arn't we?
Supersport do a 'cat-less' front pipe for the b, if you were the dishonest type you could fit one and then just replace your cat for the MOT. We are all far too grown up and honest to do that though, arn't we?
I trust you.
How did you get on KC at Oldschools tonight ? Whats the BHP ?
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I spent the evening over at Red Dot tonight as
Tony had to import a chip from abroad to fit the ECU and it had arrived today.
He has devised a system where the chip can be unpluged from the original Ecu where before the old one was soldered in.
It is a tricky board and can see why many do not do it.
Anyway.! The B went on the rollers again for a test run before a remap.
It showed 142bhp an increase over last time but we did push her over the 7000rpm limit.
The B has the new manifold and induction but the power graph was not as good as last week.
It showed there was to much air and not enough fuel in the mixture, running too lean, 17-18 ratio where as a lesser figure of 14 would be better
After a remap to adjust the fuel mixture the B was still starving for more fuel under load conditions.
It looks like i might not be getting enough pressure from my fuel pump and so
we tried to clamp the return fuel pipe so as to mimick the pressure of the pump and after several attempts the B would still not perform as it should.
The pump would not give the required fuel as to be able to increase the power.
The injectors are good to 173bhp so this would indicate that i may need to place a more powerfull pump or fuel boost like Doc has just purchased so as to be able to get more from the engine.
More tests and investigation into other B's would help.
Sunday 11th will help as we will be able to compare with other B's if the engines run so lean.
We are getting close and just need some more tinkering and maybe a few extra mods so as to gain the extra power.
ROLL ON SUNDAY!!
Tony had to import a chip from abroad to fit the ECU and it had arrived today.
He has devised a system where the chip can be unpluged from the original Ecu where before the old one was soldered in.
It is a tricky board and can see why many do not do it.
Anyway.! The B went on the rollers again for a test run before a remap.
It showed 142bhp an increase over last time but we did push her over the 7000rpm limit.
The B has the new manifold and induction but the power graph was not as good as last week.
It showed there was to much air and not enough fuel in the mixture, running too lean, 17-18 ratio where as a lesser figure of 14 would be better
After a remap to adjust the fuel mixture the B was still starving for more fuel under load conditions.
It looks like i might not be getting enough pressure from my fuel pump and so
we tried to clamp the return fuel pipe so as to mimick the pressure of the pump and after several attempts the B would still not perform as it should.
The pump would not give the required fuel as to be able to increase the power.
The injectors are good to 173bhp so this would indicate that i may need to place a more powerfull pump or fuel boost like Doc has just purchased so as to be able to get more from the engine.
More tests and investigation into other B's would help.
Sunday 11th will help as we will be able to compare with other B's if the engines run so lean.
We are getting close and just need some more tinkering and maybe a few extra mods so as to gain the extra power.
ROLL ON SUNDAY!!
I spent the evening over at Red Dot tonight as
Tony had to import a chip from abroad to fit the ECU and it had arrived today.
He has devised a system where the chip can be unpluged from the original Ecu where before the old one was soldered in.
It is a tricky board and can see why many do not do it.
Anyway.! The B went on the rollers again for a test run before a remap.
It showed 142bhp an increase over last time but we did push her over the 7000rpm limit.
The B has the new manifold and induction but the power graph was not as good as last week.
It showed there was to much air and not enough fuel in the mixture, running too lean, 17-18 ratio where as a lesser figure of 14 would be better
After a remap to adjust the fuel mixture the B was still starving for more fuel under load conditions.
It looks like i might not be getting enough pressure from my fuel pump and so
we tried to clamp the return fuel pipe so as to mimick the pressure of the pump and after several attempts the B would still not perform as it should.
The pump would not give the required fuel as to be able to increase the power.
The injectors are good to 173bhp so this would indicate that i may need to place a more powerfull pump or fuel boost like Doc has just purchased so as to be able to get more from the engine.
More tests and investigation into other B's would help.
Sunday 11th will help as we will be able to compare with other B's if the engines run so lean.
We are getting close and just need some more tinkering and maybe a few extra mods so as to gain the extra power.
ROLL ON SUNDAY!!
Looking forward to it, need to get some details up re time and place!
I'm sure the time you spend will get the results you are looking for or I certainly hope they do.
Hey KC3, you must be happy with at least knowing you are moving in the right direction and knowing what all you have to do.
173 in a B would be sweet
Mark
173 in a B would be sweet
Mark
Nice work m8.
Have to look and see what the stats for the fuel pump are to see if the flow rate is the issue. I think the Coupe has the same kind of design so that might be an upgrade option as well as a fuel boost gauge to keep the fuel PSI stable and correct.
142BHP nice but 180-200 BHP would be my happy target.
Have to look and see what the stats for the fuel pump are to see if the flow rate is the issue. I think the Coupe has the same kind of design so that might be an upgrade option as well as a fuel boost gauge to keep the fuel PSI stable and correct.
142BHP
nice but 180-200 BHP would be my happy target.
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