General  Heyner blades

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General  Heyner blades

I usually use Bosch blades, but settle for using a couple of cheap refills when they are not on offer.
The cheap ones are more susceptible to juddering, but often this is fixable by "adjusting" the arm a very small amount with 2 pairs of pliers.
Panda arms (especially the long one) seem to develop a slight twist, causing the blade to judder on a dry screen in one direction.
 
Strangely its the GP I find bad for blade noise.

Panda 'average'.. used various brands in 14 years..

What happened to the blades marketed @15 years ago ..
that had '6 blade edges' ?
I remember those multi edged blades. Think I've still got an unused one on the shelf in my garage somewhere. They don't stand out, in my addled (pugglt) old (auld) brain, as being any better than a conventional offering?
 
I knew they were there somewhere. I remember now, bought as refills for cutting to length - no frames. Fitted one to Felicity's rear window years ago and it was still doing a good job when she went to her new owner. I'm quite surprised to find this left over bit is still very nice and pliable. Would do for Becky's rear when she needs one.

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i dont really get smearing, its more the juddering that i get issues with. the blades last about a month before starting to judder across the screen. made worse by that infernal second dry wipe!!!!

If you flick the wiper stalk towards the steering wheel the water pump will run for a split second. A few of those wets the screen so you can use an ordinary wipe and not get that annoying delayed wipe.
 
None of the 500s we used with BSM in 2009/10 gave a doouble-wipe, so it must be a Panda thing.

Perhaps not programmed into the Active. Seems odd they added it to others, but didn't really explain it in the handbook. The handbook does have a strange statement about speed being dependent on the timing of the flick wipe, I guess it lost something in translation.

Both Fugly and my Active Eco have the one wipe, or one wipe plus courtesy wipe, depending on it seems, how quick and far you flick the wiper stalk up and I generally get the 2 wipes.

Blades wise, I get mine from my local Motor Factors. Bosch. I cut the middle out of the old long wiper to replace the rear. I've never ever bought a rear wiper come to think of it.

Oddly enough, I only noticed the other day after 14 years of Panda'ing, that the MK3's wipers slow down a speed when you stop and speed back up when you move off again. :worship:
 
I usually use Bosch blades, but settle for using a couple of cheap refills when they are not on offer.
The cheap ones are more susceptible to juddering, but often this is fixable by "adjusting" the arm a very small amount with 2 pairs of pliers.
Panda arms (especially the long one) seem to develop a slight twist, causing the blade to judder on a dry screen in one direction.

i may give that a look. if all i need to do is twist it a bit, that would be great :)
 
Both Fugly and my Active Eco have the one wipe, or one wipe plus courtesy wipe, depending on it seems, how quick and far you flick the wiper stalk up and I generally get the 2 wipes.

Blades wise, I get mine from my local Motor Factors. Bosch. I cut the middle out of the old long wiper to replace the rear. I've never ever bought a rear wiper come to think of it.

Oddly enough, I only noticed the other day after 14 years of Panda'ing, that the MK3's wipers slow down a speed when you stop and speed back up when you move off again. :worship:
So much "automatic stuff" nowadays isn't there. Twink's (2016 Ibiza) wipers go from 'on standard speed wipe' to 'on intermittent wipe' whenever you stop moving, ie stopping at traffic lights. If you have the main wipers on then when you select reverse the rear wiper fires up! I really don't like this sort of thing because, say a blade is jammed (maybe mechanically or through ice for instance) you would have to kill the ignition to kill power to the relevant motor (to stop it burning out or blowing a fuse). I would much rather just have an on/off switch.
 
So much "automatic stuff" nowadays isn't there. . . . . . . If you have the main wipers on then when you select reverse the rear wiper fires up!.

There is.

The Panda does the rear wipey thing too, which is one less thing to worry about when reversing/parking. Luckily living by the sea I don't have to worry about ice/frozen Windows, just salt :eek: and passing sea gulls :rolleyes:

I quite like the fact that even on the Active Panda's you get a wee bit of automation, even though you still have to unlock the boot separately, and don't get a passengers door lock. :D Blu feels posh 'cos its my first Active with a CD player and a seat belt warning light lol
 
Extra goodies (like auto stop on the screen wipers) costs peanuts so we now get the stuff added to every bit of tat on the market and it's not worth the cost of taking it out for the poverty spec models.
 

Sorry to insult the basic spec pandas. In Italy you don't even get a door mirror and the carpets are rubber mats. They probably don't get more than an on-off for the wipers.

Citroen's BX had a single wiper with water applied to the wiper via a rubber tube. It worked very well especially as the wiper was so big.
Here's the C8 version

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I've not heard that phrase in a long time.

As an Active driver I'm not insulted in the least. The Active is kind of like the popular or popular plus models Ford did in the 80's.

That's what drew me to my first Panda back 2004. It's basicness and utilitarian styling. There's not a lot to go wrong either. That's why I guess I'm on my 11th consecutive one. :slayer: :worship:
 
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I've not heard that phrase in a long time.

As an Active driver I'm not insulted in the least. The Active is kind of like the popular or popular plus models Ford did in the 80's.

That's what drew me to my first Panda back 2004. It's basicness and utilitarian styling. There's not a lot to go wrong either. That's why I guess I'm on my 11th consecutive one. :slayer: :worship:

Quite agree, loved my Active, reminded me of my old 1961 Austin Seven Mini but without the rust. I was quite disappointed to find out the Active had electric windows.

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What happened to the blades marketed @15 years ago ..
that had '6 blade edges' ?
I think they died as people realised they gave no benefit and were generally poor even when new.
The wipe is performed by the edge of the blade. If the blade twists enough for more of the side of it to wipe, it is already past its best. Anything designed to fall over enough to use another 'edge' is too flexible and will effectively reduce the pressure on the screen, giving an inferior wipe. The multi-blade was just a marketing gimmick.

I remember the original Panda, with its flat glass, not being really suited to blades designed for curved screens, so they lost their effectiveness quickly. I used to change mine twice a year, so was always looking at the alternatives.
I remember a very silly conversation with a young lad at an accessory shop. The multi-edge blades only cam in pairs. The Panda had one blade.
"These will last forever, you'll never need to buy another blade."
"But I only need one, so no need to buy a pair."
"You'll have a spare!"

i dont really get smearing, its more the juddering that i get issues with. the blades last about a month before starting to judder across the screen. made worse by that infernal second dry wipe!!!!

... often this is fixable by "adjusting" the arm a very small amount with 2 pairs of pliers.
Panda arms (especially the long one) seem to develop a slight twist, causing the blade to judder on a dry screen in one direction.

I would never recommend anyone to twist of bend the arms. You'll probably only makes things worse.
Arms wear. They should be tight on the spindle taper. The flexible hinge near their base wears, and can allow the arm to flex. New arms are the answer. The spring loses tension. Again, new arms needed.

The blade 'trails' across the screen. It lies over a little, so the trailing side of the edge does the wiping. At each end of the sweep it flips as it starts its return journey.
Every time it stops in its 'park' position, the blade is laying one way. Always the same way. Like bending a piece of paper, once bent, it can never be properly straightened, so the blade takes on a 'set', gradually worsening, so resisting this flip. On the upstroke it resists flipping, so the edge tries to dig into the glass surface, which causes the judder.
The time taken to get to this stage varies dependent on sunlight and use, or lack of use.

Two tricks to prolong their life.

1. Occasionally, with the blades parked, push them lightly downwards towards the base of the screen and release. This should flip the blade, ready for the upstroke. This helps to negate the 'set'.

2. With the original style rubbers, they can be removed from the blade frame. Two or three times a year, remove them and turn them around, so the park position is now trying to 'set' them the opposite way. They may judder a little on the way down for a day or so, but generally recover quickly and take longer to judder again. If you've got the aero type blades, they cannot be turned around.
 
Two tricks to prolong their life.

1. Occasionally, with the blades parked, push them lightly downwards towards the base of the screen and release. This should flip the blade, ready for the upstroke. This helps to negate the 'set'.
I used to do this with my old Mini 1000. It only took a moment but it was a tiny car

2. With the original style rubbers, they can be removed from the blade frame. Two or three times a year, remove them and turn them around, so the park position is now trying to 'set' them the opposite way. They may judder a little on the way down for a day or so, but generally recover quickly and take longer to judder again. If you've got the aero type blades, they cannot be turned around.

I find the rubbers are really not easy to remove/replace and usually get kinked. Then they never sit properly on the screen.

The Citroen idea of putting wash water directly on the wiper blade is about the best way to do it (IMO).
 
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