Technical Help with replacing valve stem seals

[Momanatorz]

I've concluded that my engine burning oil was because of valve steam seals that has 85k on them, but it prob isn't the reason but i can hope.
this is happening after head gasket change.

Do I need to drain the oil? Can i replace them without taking the head off? just put new head bolts in...
Thanks for any help!

 

[Momanatorz]

Any assitance is most valued

 

[B3NNETT]

not had any experience on the punto engine, but on the ones i have done the valve has to come out so you will need to take the head out

but not 100% sure

 

[dave]

you can get a 2 part tool to do it with out taking head off, one bit pumps air in by plug hole to keep valve up other dit compresses valve spring.

why didnt you put them on when you did the headgasket? that's why they come with the gasket set, so you can change them when head if already off

 

[Momanatorz]

you can get a 2 part tool to do it with out taking head off, one bit pumps air in by plug hole to keep valve up other dit compresses valve spring.

why didnt you put them on when you did the headgasket? that's why they come with the gasket set, so you can change them when head if already off

i thought they'd be fine but it seems they're not. this is my first car so how was i meant to know to change them aswell.
thanks for the reply

 

[Momanatorz]

not had any experience on the punto engine, but on the ones i have done the valve has to come out so you will need to take the head out

but not 100% sure

Ok thanks mate

 

[Momanatorz]

No one's said if I should drain the oil or not to remove the head
i'll risk not draining it as i'm doin it today

 

[Momanatorz]

I ordered a valve compressor and it finally arrived, but with a problem. the part that pushes the valves down cant get any where near the top of the spring retainer as it is quite deep in the head!
take a look at the pic if you dont get what i mean

Should i get a cylinder type tube that will make the clamp reach longer? or buy one which will actually reach the retainer...
i've waited 2 weeks for this damn tool and this is ridiculous

 

[dave]

thats for an ohv you need one for a ohc about £15 in halfords. just send that one back

 

[Momanatorz]

thats for an ohv you need one for a ohc about £15 in halfords. just send that one back

Thanks alot for the reply but i made this tool work with my head, i used a copper tube to make it longer and it was too long! then i had to cut half an inch off with a damn hacksaw lol, Yay i got all valves out now

 

[Momanatorz]

State of my intake valves

 

[Momanatorz]

thats for an ohv you need one for a ohc about £15 in halfords. just send that one back

Hello again dave, i checked on the halfords site and can only find one for £37. the other type is the same one i have (£16 on the site)
should I go and ask in-store?

 

[dave]

matbe they gone up, have you got a machine mart?

 

[Momanatorz]

matbe they gone up, have you got a machine mart?

What's a machine mart?
i bought the £36 one, it's super-duper. has 2 spring retainer sizes and a jiffy for removal and replacement! thanks for the halfords tip, i checked other online stores but halfords had the cheapest one of the same brand! an unusual feat from halfords (Laser brand)

 

[Momanatorz]

Just a note the old valve oil seals broke to pieces once i took the springs off, they were completely f***ed !!!! especially inlet ones. i read somewhere they tend to go more than exhaust cos of somethin about pressure

 

[Momanatorz]

matbe they gone up, have you got a machine mart?

Oh it's a shop lol, yeah there is one near me i just found out but they do the same tool i got for £40 !
thanks for your help mate. hopefully no more burning oil, will test car tomorrow