Technical  Headlight condensation

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Technical  Headlight condensation

On a dry day

Take the black cover of the back

And drive with the headlights on

you basically have a halogen oven already in there, you need just to let the moisture escape.

I have tried using a hair dryer at the back it's not as quick or as efficient
 
Thanks guys.

Sunny and dry afternoon here, so I've taken out the headlight bulb and holder and the indicator bulb holder too. Getting at the side light bulb seemed too difficult.
Left the cover off and left it under the bonnet near the battery.
I'll leave well alone for a day or so. We have another car, so we're not stranded!

I took photographs.

Fingers crossed by the end of the weekend, the glass will be dried out. The seal rubber doesn't look too good, so I may bring that in and pull off the rubber and clean it all thoroughly.

Thanks again for the comments and advice.
Mick.
 

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Thanks guys.

Sunny and dry afternoon here, so I've taken out the headlight bulb and holder and the indicator bulb holder too. Getting at the side light bulb seemed too difficult.
Left the cover off and left it under the bonnet near the battery.
I'll leave well alone for a day or so. We have another car, so we're not stranded!

I took photographs.

Fingers crossed by the end of the weekend, the glass will be dried out. The seal rubber doesn't look too good, so I may bring that in and pull off the rubber and clean it all thoroughly.

Thanks again for the comments and advice.
Mick.
Just take the black covver off and drive it for a bit with the headlights on

A standard bulb, gets very hot,, it will evaporate any moisture very quickly, as long as it has somewhere to escape (leave the back off) you basically have a mini one of these built in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogen oven, makes sense to me to use it. It will be done in 1/2 hour. Less if you can find somewhere to drive with the main beam on

Works on the drive with the engine running. But I wouldn't leave the main beam on as its designed to be air cooled.

bulbs out and and letting it dry naturally will take forever
 
Good afternoon guys.

Thanks very much for the contributions.

Yes, the seal looks like it's past its best. I'll have a good clean-up of it and the cover. Tomorrow morning sounds good.
The bulbs have been out and the bonnet lifted for three hours this afternoon, and although the glass still has condensate on it, it looks "different". I was considering using a hair dryer tomorrow to heat up the glass and maybe inject the hot air inside. Meanwhile, I've closed the bonnet for the evening/night.

Cover off and running the engine with the lights on dip sounds better. I could go for a drive with full beam on I suppose, but I/we rarely drive at night these days. There are enough quiet lanes hereabouts where I could drive during the day on full beam without upsetting folk. Maybe the next idea if the hair dryer doesn't do it.

Thinking about the seal, I could give it a good clean-up and then apply a good dollop of Vaseline to it.

I'll get back to this thread this time tomorrow. Hopefully with good news! :)

Thanks muchly,
Mick.
 
It's a rubber seal so don't use Vaseline. Use red rubber grease or silicone grease.

Sorry, but I've already used the Vaseline. It's fine with rubber. If you can put it on a baby's bottom, it can't be harmful. I've been using Vaseline on car battery terminals and hose connections for years without issue.

Meanwhile, I used the hair dryer, but it wasn't powerful enough, so dug out my heat gun from the workshop. It has three heat setting, warm, quite warm and VERY warm ............. and that setting will strip paint! Suffice to say, I used the second setting, but maybe six inches away from the glass.

By doing it for a couple of minutes whilst playing it about on the glass, and then waiting five minutes before another application, the moisture has gone so I re-fitted the bulbs. The seal was in good condition though dirty, and after a good clean, it looks great.

I cleaned out the cover and applied a smooth layer of Vaseline under and over the seal, and fitted the seal in the opposite orientation so the top bit is now at the bottom. I would expect that the seals when new, are circular.

All done, and time will tell if there's a deeper problem.
The car was laid up for a few weeks outside before we took it on, so maybe lack of use has exacerbated the issue of a poor seal.

Fingers crossed,
Mick.
 
Well .......................

Drove the car this morning, and although the light was condensation free, and it's been a lovely warm dry day ............. the condensation is back.
Just looked out of the front window.

So ........... although I dried the glass, the humidity must have been still inside, and now it's condensed on the glass again.

How can I get dry air inside?
The unit needs ventilating?
Maybe put the heat gun on its lowest setting with the bulb holders out, inject (by some means) the air-flow and leave it running for a while?

Mick.
 
I opened the bonnet, took the cover off, removed the bulbs, and left the car facing south in full Cornish breezy sunshine.
Over the last two hours, the glass has cleared!!!!

We live in a valley, so the sun is setting now, so refitted it all and then closed the bonnet.

Fingers crossed again.
Mick.
 
What a brilliant idea!
Not got one except the little button things in loose coffee packets. Just fished one out of the bin and cut it out of the packet. It's on the top of the cooker range to get it nice and dry. I'll fit inside the cover easily.

Meanwhile, looking out of the front window, the LH headlight is a bit "hazy" this morning. Totally dry night, so the damp must still be in there.
Shortly, I'll be out taking the cover off and the bulbs out again, and let it air for the day. After putting it all back together late this afternoon, I put the button inside the cover.

Mick.
 
Bad news I'm afraid.
Condensation is back again. It's not rained, or been damp, and has been totally dry for a few days.
Where is the condensation coming from?

The next thing I'll be doing, is driving with the headlights on, then when I get home, I'll be removing everything. Cover, and bulbs (hot!) as suggested up thread by Panda Nut. Thanks.

Mick.
 
Bad news I'm afraid.
Condensation is back again. It's not rained, or been damp, and has been totally dry for a few days.
Where is the condensation coming from?

The next thing I'll be doing, is driving with the headlights on, then when I get home, I'll be removing everything. Cover, and bulbs (hot!) as suggested up thread by Panda Nut. Thanks.

Mick.
Please just leave the bulbs in and on, back off, they soon dry out

Otherwise you just move the moisture around

Been here many times with various cars

In the old days light units weren't sealed and had a vent hole
 
Please just leave the bulbs in and on, back off, they soon dry out

Otherwise you just move the moisture around

Been here many times with various cars

In the old days light units weren't sealed and had a vent hole
That sounds like a good bet.
What are the covers for anyway?

Had many cars in my driving life, and none have had these cover fittings.

I was out driving for half an hour today, and had the headlights on dipped. The glass cleared somewhat, but not fully, and I doubt it'll remain clear. I'm going to go outside shortly, and remove the cover, and I'll leave it off.

Mick.
 
The problem is that, even with the cap off, not much air is going to circulate through the unit. It's like trying to dry an empty wine bottle by leaving it out in the sun; it takes a surprisingly long time, and good drying weather.

If you can arrange to circulate air through the headlamp unit (blowing it in through a flexible tube is one way), it will dry much faster. If the air is warm and dry, so much the better. An airline off a compressor with an inline dryer with the pressure turned right down might do the trick; you just want a nice steady flow of dry air through the unit. An aquarium air pump might work well too, as might an airbrush compressor on its lowest setting.
 
Well ..................

I removed the cover yesterday afternoon, and the car hasn't been driven and the lights haven't been on either.
This morning, before breakfast time, the light was clear-ish.
By noon, it was completely clear and still remains so. 5pm+

All I did, was to remove the cover yesterday afternoon and close the bonnet.
Tomorrow is another day, but I'm optimistic.

Mick.
 
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