Fiat 500e with an engine?! Yes please.

[The Pretender]

Although it will not be the fastest one with 71 hp/52 kW engine, but at least it's not a Peugeot engine, making it the last real FIAT with ICE engine.

And maybe there is a very small change there will also be a Abarth 500 Mild Hybrid with the FIAT GSE-Firefly 1.5 Hybrid VGT 160 hp TCT engine in it.
Because like the electric FIAT 500e, the electric Abarth 500e is also not selling..

 

[The Pretender]

Oh no... I don't like the look of that gearstick :-( I hope the Fiat engineers handled that bit, never had much complaint with the Panda's but the DS3 gearbox wasn't great

Don't worry, no Peugeot sh#t in the Italian build FIAT 500 Mild Hybrid, just real FIAT GSE-Firefly engine and FIAT gearbox.

 

[The Pretender]

Unlike the Grande Panda, which is a full Peugeot/Citroën, is this not the case with the 500 Hybrid. Which makes the 500 Hybrid the only real new FIAT left.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

. Which makes the 500 Hybrid the only real new FIAT left.

except it uses the same platform as the 500x and grande Punto which was a GM/Fiat collaboration…. The hybrid tech is not of fiats own design

Aside from that, it’s the only “real” new fiat left.

Clearly a car made to satisfy the Italian market who don’t worry too much about features or power and only care about how cheap a car is.

 

[varesecrazy]

except it uses the same platform as the 500x and grande Punto which was a GM/Fiat collaboration…. The hybrid tech is not of fiats own design

The EV Kit was made in Italy, and unique to FIAT

Not sure of the Hybrid heritage.. , the petrol engine was FIAT Powertrain development
Brazil @2012

Interested to see more

The PSA kit was of Dutch Design IIRC

 

[SB1500]

If Fiat had kept up development of this tech / platform of the 500e and put it into a Panda much sooner.. and other models.. who knows where they’d be now. I think most things came to a halt internally the second this PSA merger became a serious plan…

Fiat can do a really good job in engineering when they try. Not all brands, no matter how ambitious, have that going for them..

 

[The Pretender]

The PSA merger is being a big mistake, IMHO.
Before that there were Renault - FIAT Chrysler Merger plans, that would be a better merger, IMHO.

 

[SB1500]

The PSA merger is being a big mistake, IMHO.
Before that there were Renault - FIAT Chrysler Merger plans, that would be a better merger, IMHO.

I don't think it's a forever move. I think it was necessary with the political climate and EV mandate, but even with decent adoption I think it's already becoming apparent that EVs are not the solution and to my understanding anyone whose bought one that isn't retired tends to love it initially, then conclude that they won't buy one again next time. A couple of ones I know who got them from work have already went back to ICE alternatives. I think that says a lot when people with the money and extra incentive who can afford them and were open to, hand them back...

As soon as Fiat gets a chance it will break off again and maybe leave the chaff behind and take only the brands it cares about (The Italian ones). I don't think Chrysler and its side held up much of its end of the bargain over the last decade in regards to the US. Now they can leave it with PSA to try and fail in their own time in the US market.

We can only hope.. anyway.