Technical EGR tubes..tech question

[varesecrazy]

Ok.. long story..

Had fumes..discovered a poor seal

The offending parts are all 1 fiat EGR item :£600..!!

According to ePER..

THE FLEXI joins onto the manifold stub

With an 'Olive'..

Anybody actually swapped all this..olive included??

My olive is crimped tight.. but the flexi is now too small.. having been crimped out of position.

Im tempted to remove the stub.. but the heads were chewed also..

Oh the joy of used..

Any insights are most welcome..

 

[Goudrons]

The stub is ok but the flexi and olive are crushed and leaking?

Why not buy a used EGR, doesn't matter if the valve works, just remove the cool and flexi off it and bolt it to yours.

 

[varesecrazy]

They are all 1 piece .. hoses and egr cannister..

 

[Goudrons]

I'm pretty sure the EGR valve it's self comes as one part and the cooler is screwed onto the bottom, is another,

Valve
Valvola Egr Fiat Panda (169) 1.3d Multijet, 1.3d Multijet 4 x 4, 1.3 JTD 55184651: Amazon.it: Auto e Moto

Cooler
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3129702585...-2T8ZqQeIHJtLLuJvZzTYNUWfMIeT8pxoC9jsQAvD_BwE

The cooler in the link seems to have everything you need??

 

[varesecrazy]

Yes the 'cooler' is the part I have issues with..

Those photos are very helpful.. thanks

I was warned the EGR takes @3 hours to swap.. obviously thats with fasteners that can be undone..

Now ghe weather is picking up s little.. I am going to have another go..

That stub appears different to ePER

THE CRANK IN IT.. could be an issue

Time will tell

Cheers
Charlie

 

[Goudrons]

I think once you've split the clamped pipe and loosened the plate behind that clamped joint, the cranked pipe should riggle out, though there's little room.

There are a few vids on Youtube that may help.

Apart from the usual Fiat applications, this engine was fitted into a few Vauxhall/Opel models as well, GM called it the 1.3 CDTi, was fitted to the likes the Corsa, Meriva, Astra and Combo.
(though some will obviously have more room than others under the bonnet)


Like this one

 

[varesecrazy]

Ok.

Food for thought..

Will be a couple of weeks til I have an answer..
But it looks like the cooler and hose could be transferred over to my motor..and have a chance of fitting ok.

Update to follow.. GUIDE too

Charlie

 

[DaveMcT]

If you have an IR thermometer, see how hot that clamp olive area becomes when in use. If its up to 250°you could seal it with silicone around the olive. If its hotter, exhaust paste might do the job.

 

[Goudrons]

There are a couple of soft metal gaskets that you might need to change.

A round one between the valve and cooler

An oblong one on the side of the valve .
There are less than a fiver on Ebay, you wouldn't want to do all that work and it leak, so worth having them to hand before you start.

 

[varesecrazy]

If you have an IR thermometer, see how hot that clamp olive area becomes when in use. If its up to 250°you could seal it with silicone around the olive. If its hotter, exhaust paste might do the job.

Ive been doing that..

Its the angular mismatch thats the issue


So a means of getting the tube to stub joints perpendicular ..then clamped is the aim.

Been battling this for months now.. so will be glad when its done.

Its actually a GP mj.. so space is probably better.. but its all hidden out of sight.

The prospect of uncoupling lower parts and getting the cooler and tubing on the bench is probably 1st step

So I can swage the tube mouth back to the olives dia.

Reconnect with the clamp

Then remount lower parts

Sounds easy..

 

[varesecrazy]

Bought a replacement EGR assembly.. now appears leaktight