dont buy any car fitted with a DPF (diesel particulate filter)

[ChrisUK]

I'm a bit worried now about all this don't buy a car with a DPF!

Whilst the Mjet doesn't have one, the car i am thinking of buying next will have one for sure, which is the Octavia VRS TDI. I believe the VRS uses a DPF having looked on the briskoda.net forum.

My daily commute to work and home consists of about a 70 mile round trip, Motorway's and A - Roads. I work 4 / 5 days a week, i generally have 3 / 4 days off after my working week and will normally only do town sort of mileage with the odd run up the Motorway to visit friends / family.

I know T said VW have made a boo boo with their DPF engines and the Octavia uses the VW PD engine.

Does anyone have experience with these engines using DPF?
And do i really need to be worried given the mileage i do each week?

One of my work colleagues has a golf which uses the PD engine, but i don't think it's one which uses the DPF.

Thanks

Based on that usage I really wouldn't worry. People who have problems are people who tootle along to the shops 3-4 times a week.

 

[Stuart J]

I'm a bit worried now about all this don't buy a car with a DPF!

Whilst the Mjet doesn't have one, the car i am thinking of buying next will have one for sure, which is the Octavia VRS TDI. I believe the VRS uses a DPF having looked on the briskoda.net forum.

My daily commute to work and home consists of about a 70 mile round trip, Motorway's and A - Roads. I work 4 / 5 days a week, i generally have 3 / 4 days off after my working week and will normally only do town sort of mileage with the odd run up the Motorway to visit friends / family.

I know T said VW have made a boo boo with their DPF engines and the Octavia uses the VW PD engine.

Does anyone have experience with these engines using DPF?
And do i really need to be worried given the mileage i do each week?

One of my work colleagues has a golf which uses the PD engine, but i don't think it's one which uses the DPF.

Thanks

Re the Skoda some people have dpf problems, others are fine but theres a good source of comanies now who can remove them & remap the car giving you a worry free life with more performance & better mpg. The most subtle way to do it is to rip the inerds out of the dpf so it looks like its still fitted but if you do this try & get a damaged one or one from a scrappy in case you ever need to revert to the dpf as figures of up to 1000 are being paid by people with failed DPF's. These usually only start failing at 60-70K & many go on after that. Most tuners will offer a replacement section of pipe, not as subtle but cheap enough but it depends on your dealerv as to how they will view that for any warranty claims, some are OK, some arent but it should only effect any claims on parts effected by the dpf.
Skodas are great cars, weve just bought our 4th as the daily workhorse, 2 of the last ones were sold at around 85K & one at 165k. One I tuned to 356 bhp but all were incredibly reliable & even out of warranty the odd part we needed was well priced & always available next day at the latest, a far cry from Fiats, you will get the bits "eventually" The build quality was far superior to our Abarth which just dosent feel like it will last forever as the Skodas did, But the Abarth is so much fun I will forgive them

 

[Ulpian]

If that really is your usage you should be fine. DPFs simply don't like lots of short journeys.

If you had a different driving profile I'd recommend a petrol engine though.

 

[payney1]

Based on that usage I really wouldn't worry. People who have problems are people who tootle along to the shops 3-4 times a week.

Re the Skoda some people have dpf problems, others are fine but theres a good source of comanies now who can remove them & remap the car giving you a worry free life with more performance & better mpg. The most subtle way to do it is to rip the inerds out of the dpf so it looks like its still fitted but if you do this try & get a damaged one or one from a scrappy in case you ever need to revert to the dpf as figures of up to 1000 are being paid by people with failed DPF's. These usually only start failing at 60-70K & many go on after that. Most tuners will offer a replacement section of pipe, not as subtle but cheap enough but it depends on your dealerv as to how they will view that for any warranty claims, some are OK, some arent but it should only effect any claims on parts effected by the dpf.
Skodas are great cars, weve just bought our 4th as the daily workhorse, 2 of the last ones were sold at around 85K & one at 165k. One I tuned to 356 bhp but all were incredibly reliable & even out of warranty the odd part we needed was well priced & always available next day at the latest, a far cry from Fiats, you will get the bits "eventually" The build quality was far superior to our Abarth which just dosent feel like it will last forever as the Skodas did, But the Abarth is so much fun I will forgive them

If that really is your usage you should be fine. DPFs simply don't like lots of short journeys.

If you had a different driving profile I'd recommend a petrol engine though.

Thanks for the reassurance on the DPF guys

@ Stuart J - Thanks for the info on skoda's - whilst the mjet is generally a good car the one thing that bothers me is the build quality, which is why (hopefully) i'll be jumping ship next year.

I've also discovered that Skoda are now doing common rail engines, so it should be refined than the PD engine.

 

[seboni121]

Is the stilo 1.9 jtd 115bhp a dpf engine,my other car is a skoda superb mk2 1.9tdi a fantastic car but I do pootle along for fuel economy but I will take it over a ton when the missus is not in it though

 

[bBrad]

If its gone limp, it should have left a footprint in the ECU that can be read by examiner.

Cheers

D

So what should i do, will just cleaning it out help?? and where abouts on the car is it??

 

[Shambolicuk]

First time post so hi all

Im contemplating swapping my Punto GP for a new Qubo 1.3 dynamic multijet 16v Diesel and was hoping if someone could tell me if they have a DPF fitted? I only do 5000 miles a year roughly and like 60-70% is short journeys and wondered if it would be suitable for my driving figures?

Also i have read that the year 2011 Qubo will have a 1.3 diesel 95 hp engine which would be more appealing for me but would appear to be fitted with a DPF . So another question is have DPF's advanced at all or should i steer clear of the new model taking into account my driving style? Cheers, Keith.

 

[admanrv]

Interesting.

 

[rallycinq]

First time post so hi all

Im contemplating swapping my Punto GP for a new Qubo 1.3 dynamic multijet 16v Diesel and was hoping if someone could tell me if they have a DPF fitted? I only do 5000 miles a year roughly and like 60-70% is short journeys and wondered if it would be suitable for my driving figures?

Also i have read that the year 2011 Qubo will have a 1.3 diesel 95 hp engine which would be more appealing for me but would appear to be fitted with a DPF . So another question is have DPF's advanced at all or should i steer clear of the new model taking into account my driving style? Cheers, Keith.

For 5000 miles pa, get a taxi for short trips and hire for longer trips. far cheaper.

Cheers

D

 

[s130]

If you only do 5K per year then the diesel option will be far more expensive. Personally I would opt for the petrol version assuming that is an available oprtion for Qubo (I have not checked).

Up till recently the 1.3 multijets did not require DPF filters. I think you need to contact Fiat (dealer and/or Fiat UK) and establish the exact DPF position.

If DPF is standard then your 5K miles becomes more of potential problem. If you do your 5K miles in say 50 mile runs then there will be no problem. If you are doing start/5 miles/stop runs then there could be issues.

 

[sludgeguts]

I'm coming up to 45k in an 06 doblo and I can't help but wonder a couple of things.
1. has my car got a dpf (1.9jtd)?
and if so
2. why haven't I had problems?




I cannot also help but wonder why there aren't a couple of warning lights on the dash as well as instructions in the manual.
Maybe have a dpf sign which comes on green to let you know it's started a cycle (so try to keep the engine running for a few minutes) with perhaps a red to let you know it's desperate for a regen & so to let the engine idle for a while - if that's what it takes.
Surely the dpf and battery are similar beasts in that they both hate the short journeys but love the long haul or engine ticking over for ages?

 

[s130]

One sure way to check if you have a DPF is to actually look at the exhaust system.

If the middle box has one or two steel tubes connecting to rubber hoses that then go into the engine compartment then this would suggest that you do have a DPF filter.

 

[sludgeguts]

One sure way to check if you have a DPF is to actually look at the exhaust system.

If the middle box has one or two steel tubes connecting to rubber hoses that then go into the engine compartment then this would suggest that you do have a DPF filter.

It was rhetorical.
But thanks anyway for the info, I'm sure there are those who wouldn't know.

 

[irhuntly]

I have Multipla Multijet 1.9 and at 180 000kms have hod no problems with the diesel particulate filter at all. I was warned by the garage to use 50ppm diesel only which is slightly more expensive than the cheaper grades. the lower grade diesels will cause problems with any car fitted with a DPF.