Hardly, anyone with their head screwed on who realises the car suddenly costs £70 a year more for RLF would keep it selected even if it never worked
General Calling all start 'n' stop owners!
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General Calling all start 'n' stop owners!
Hardly, anyone with their head screwed on who realises the car suddenly costs £70 a year more for RLF would keep it selected even if it never worked
I do not accept one moment that you even exist. Therefore your post doesn't exist.
Good day to you.
Or perhaps you could remove your head from your behind and understand that some people on here actually know what they're talking about? Your car stood on the boat for how long not doing anything and losing charge from the battery? A month or so I'd guess. It may have needed to be jumpstarted at Fremantle to get it off the ship.
At best it probably got chucked on charge by the dealer for long enough for it to start and have a bit of extra juice.
At worst I suspect a decent charge from a smart charger will sort 99 out of 100 issues with S&S. But if you've become an expert on S&S systems by owning one for 4 months then feel free not to try that........
Completely agree.
jrkitching I'm a bit surprised tbh! The S&S in your car has worked flawlessly hasn't it? Tbh I think this is proof that a properly maintained car driven by someone who knows how to drive a car (don't hold the clutch in needlessly, rest your hand on the gear lever and so on.....)
I think we need to start pushing the basics with people on here and not letting the uneducated steer the ship.
Charge your battery.
Take your hand off the gear stick unless you're changing gear.
Keep your foot away from the clutch pedal unless you're changing gear
If you've got a dualogic, remember that your left leg can be used to hold your car on the brakes on an incline.
This takes care of almost all of the issues with S&S.
I never understand why people get so worked up over S&S not working, usually ranting about how they'd happily have a car without S&S when an S&S car with non-functioning S&S behaves exactly like a non-S&S car! The problem is that these Neanderthals find this thread, read the one post from a fellow Neanderthal and try to club (geddit? club?) together to form some sort of nonsensical anti-S&S club. Yes it's an emissions trick (who's going to complain about lower road tax?) and yes it is a little finicky, but if it doesn't work then all that happens is your engine keeps on running, which is what cars always used to do anyway........
Nope, i bought before it was standard fit.
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Re: Calling all start 'n' stop owners! Outside air temp
Just another point to note on my 18 months of twin air ownership and 7 dealership visits to investigate my ss issue - car cuts out and restarts after 3- 30 seconds on own.
I am now convinced that after two new battery changes (fully charged) and three different senors fitted that in my case the out side air temperature effects or rather causes my random restarts. Yes I have had an software upgrade, and two visits from Fiat spec tech, two cases opened with Fiat.
All through the summer when the outside air temperature was above 15 degrees the ss worked faultlessly, now we in Essex experienced a drop in temperature the car plays up so below 15 degrees get issues, above ok!!!!!!
The cars going back in again this week the dealership don't know what to do, other than open yet another case with Fiat tech.
Anyone else have the same issue?
Just another point to note on my 18 months of twin air ownership and 7 dealership visits to investigate my ss issue - car cuts out and restarts after 3- 30 seconds on own.
I am now convinced that after two new battery changes (fully charged) and three different senors fitted that in my case the out side air temperature effects or rather causes my random restarts. Yes I have had an software upgrade, and two visits from Fiat spec tech, two cases opened with Fiat.
All through the summer when the outside air temperature was above 15 degrees the ss worked faultlessly, now we in Essex experienced a drop in temperature the car plays up so below 15 degrees get issues, above ok!!!!!!
The cars going back in again this week the dealership don't know what to do, other than open yet another case with Fiat tech.
Anyone else have the same issue?
A new battery doesn't always mean it's fully charged.
:yeahthat: we're they pulse charged before being fitted?
The two 500s I had didn't have external temp displays on the dash being poverty spec, can I assume there is still an external air temp sensor for the SS system to pick up the outside temp from
The two 500s I had didn't have external temp displays on the dash being poverty spec, can I assume there is still an external air temp sensor for the SS system to pick up the outside temp from
:yeahthat: we're they pulse charged before being fitted?
The two 500s I had didn't have external temp displays on the dash being poverty spec, can I assume there is still an external air temp sensor for the SS system to pick up the outside temp from
That's correct, you only get that when you have air con or climate control.
So in theiory SS on the base model 500s will still work in say -10C external temps but wouldn't on those with AC or Climate
only if you had climate control on.So in theiory SS on the base model 500s will still work in say -10C external temps but wouldn't on those with AC or Climate
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Battery report 98% on Fiats tech instruction detailed discharge reports were printed out and supplied to them. Battery sound and charged.
In my case I tested all possible configurations climate control on off wipers on off, lights on off, even with the on off of all possible drains the one issue is a drop in out side temperature which seem to cause my ss to panic and fire it's self back up.
Any thing above 15 degrees car performs just as it should, even with lights on, climate control on wipers on etc.
In my case I tested all possible configurations climate control on off wipers on off, lights on off, even with the on off of all possible drains the one issue is a drop in out side temperature which seem to cause my ss to panic and fire it's self back up.
Any thing above 15 degrees car performs just as it should, even with lights on, climate control on wipers on etc.
I though SS only works between 2-35C external temp, one of the things in the yes no logic as to if it'll kick in
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Remember if you have climate control, there's an internal temp sensor - and it's the threshold of difference between the setpoint temp and the actual internal temp that governs whether the S&S stops the engine.
So if the outside temp is 5 degrees, and you're asking for 20 degrees inside - there's a good chance the cabin temp will be too low, so the engine won't be stopped. It's the same when it's really hot and you're asking for a low cabin temp - and was demonstrable at will with my car this summer.
So if the outside temp is 5 degrees, and you're asking for 20 degrees inside - there's a good chance the cabin temp will be too low, so the engine won't be stopped. It's the same when it's really hot and you're asking for a low cabin temp - and was demonstrable at will with my car this summer.
Which begs the question, what temp do you have you cc set at nytullett23?
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During summer normally 21 degrees, winter 23 both using climate control.
My issue is not that my ss does not work, it does BUT after stopping the engine it fires up again all on it own after 3- approx 30 seconds, this happens regardless of using the auto climate or manual temp setting or using any thing else in the way of lights to mounted sat nav etc.
While the outside temperature is above 15 degrees it works fine, as soon as the outside temp drops it gains a mind of it own.
My issue is not that my ss does not work, it does BUT after stopping the engine it fires up again all on it own after 3- approx 30 seconds, this happens regardless of using the auto climate or manual temp setting or using any thing else in the way of lights to mounted sat nav etc.
While the outside temperature is above 15 degrees it works fine, as soon as the outside temp drops it gains a mind of it own.
But POPs don't have CC or even manual AC as standard. So on them I'd assume SS would still kick in even if minus 10C outside so long as the engine is warm enough.
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Depends on the quality of charged the dealer uses.
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