Aircraft traffic (geek alert!)

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Aircraft traffic (geek alert!)

am I sad?

no, no course not....

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why would you think that...........
 
I'm in feurteventura, due back wednesday, if this ash cloud lasts beyond that thomas cook are keeping the hotel on free and giving us free meals and some drinks vouchers for in the hotel bar and restraunt (y)

how come that plane was out though?
 
How bad would it be if the arrow just suddenly dissapeared:(

Change the refresh from 30 to 10 seconds makes it more accurate (y)

The sites down for me :(

Did you pass the geek test:confused:

This is cool. Have you seen the iPhone app Plane Finder?

whats a iphone?

how come that plane was out though?

some airlines are doubting all this ash news and KLM have flown test flights already...and they are losing millions daily!
 
Nope - currently on 3 for mobile lol

Must have a proper look at that ATC one though :) (Although, I'm a boaty type at heart lol)
 
Slightly off topic but all these people saying "It's just a bit of ash" or "it's all elf and safety" are just being silly. A jet turbine is a very precise bit of kit and as the more responsible media outlets are saying, if the ash gets sucked in it gets melted and basically forms as glass inside the engine and coats bits that you don't want getting coated......

I very much doubt that any plane would crash after 1 or 2 trips through the ash as it's not like they're flying directly through the plume, but constant use will pretty much knacker engine components and the airlines would lose more money than they're already losing.

But it's nice to be all simplistic about something you don't understand in the slightest :ROFLMAO:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/apr/15/volcanic-ash-bad-for-planes
 
Actually listened to some good info on a few radio stations this morning, one report described the sudden failure of all 4 engines due to volcanic dust another said its not that bad as you should fly at different height.

I dunno i'm not expert (i hate flying....my arms get tired) but I wonder how long people will put up with it before food prices and other items rise/shortage.

Good time to put up the train prices anyway:)

p.s. mate down south said his car was covered in grey ash this morning.
 
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Actually listened to some good info on a few radio stations this morning, one report described the sudden failure of all 4 engines due to volcanic dust another said its not that bad as you should fly at different height.

I dunno i'm not expert (i hate flying....my arms get tired) but I wonder how long people will put up with it before food prices and other items rise/shortage.

Good time to put up the train prices anyway:)

p.s. mate down south said his car was covered in grey ash this morning.
Well I really don't think you'd have a failure like the aircraft in indonesia because that was a very extreme case and they were flying right through the plume. But as you probably know having lots of little abrasive particles going through something as precisely engineer as a turbine engine isn't good and having the particles melt and form coatings isn't good either. I did an aviation degree for a year (dropped out due to lack of money for practical training) so I know a little about aviation and tbh you wouldn't catch me going up at the moment because I know what harm the ash would be doing to those engines.

Mark my words, if flights are resumed whilst this ash is still above us there will be incidents in the future where airlines are having to replace (expensive) components a lot sooner than expected. I really doubt enough damage would be done in one flight to make an aircraft fall from the sky or anything, but the damage done each time the aircraft goes up will hurt the airlines more than not being able to fly at all....
 
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I did an aviation degree for a year (dropped out due to lack of money for practical training)

what...like buy & fly your own plane:confused:

Mark my words, if flights are resumed whilst this ash is still above us there will be incidents in the future where airlines are having to replace (expensive) components a lot sooner than expected. I really doubt enough damage would be done in one flight to make an aircraft fall from the sky or anything, but the damage done each time the aircraft goes up will hurt the airlines more than not being able to fly at all....

Like putting in crap oil from local boot sale and not Selina (in car terms)

What about turboprop planes?
 
Like putting in crap oil from local boot sale and not Selina (in car terms)

What about turboprop planes?
Was wanting to be a commercial pilot but I just didn't have the money to do the training.

Turboprops? I would guess they're pretty much the same being a turbine just with a prop on the front. I simplify of course but that's pretty much the principle.

I would guess it's similar to using the wrong oil in your car yes :)
 
A turboprop operates on the same principle as a turbofan only the prop acts as the primary air compressor instead of a big bladed fan. The worry is that the ash contains rock and glass so with the intense heat of the engine liquifying the particles that the intakes on the 'can' portion of the combustion chamber get smothered, or the turbines themselves are destroyed as the particulates solidify on exit. That and the external structure of the aircraft is sandblasted. I think even though it may be safe to fly, it's not good for the longevity of the engine, and engine pollutants might never be discovered until it's too late.

Which flight school did you sign up to? I'd be surprised they'd admit you at all without sucessfully acquiring the finances even if you passed selection.

Other things to consider such as pitot tubes which are used for pressure sensing for airspeed and altitude, the theory behind the Air France crash last year was a blocked pitot because the flight computers aren't able to tell the airspeed correctly and there's very little visual reference for airspeed over the sea.
 
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