Technical '06 Panda crank sensor issue.....

[RDM1]

IIRC Koalar asked for the sparkplug put into the jaw of a jumpercable with the other end on the negative of the battery. What I read is you put the earth of the plug on the engine. To me that is not the same.
Rushing of fuel in the line is not the same as clicking injectors (easy to hear).
Wiring of the cranksensor is (AFAIK) still shoddy.

Looks like we are running in circles.
Kudos to Koalar's patience!

What i did is put an external spark plug and shorted it to the engine (should see a spark to the engine block)

As for the injectors there is no injector ticking at all 4 as i said ECU tick yes injectors no

As for the CPS wiring i know it's not as it should but it is working as last time after the cleanup for the power failure the fault code p0335 went away with all the rest no idea what brought it along with the other one back

 

[RDM1]

And i remember mentioning that after the electrical cleanup we started having rpm feedback but the car won't start

 

[RDM1]

And just to clarify shorting the spark plug is the same to taking it to the battery negative as the engine does have a wire that goes all the way to the negative still if you insist

 

[RDM1]

Like that?

 

[koalar]

Like that?

No it needs a lot to work

The CODE read by the BCM
The CODE read by the ECU
The Code passed back to the BCM
ECU communicating
ECU ignition coil driver
ECU to coil pack wires
Power to coil pack
Spark plug working
Ground
Cam sensor, it wiring, the ECU to read it
Crank sensor, it wiring, the ECU to read it
Cam and crank to match
No other error codes present that will shut the ECU down
Voltage drop of cranking

Like this



Far less to work

The CODE read by the BCM
The CODE read by the ECU
The Code passed back to the BCM
ECU communicating
ECU ignition coil driver
ECU to coil pack wires
Power to coil pack
Spark plug working
Ground
Cam sensor, it wiring, the ECU to read it
Crank sensor, it wiring, the ECU to read it
Cam and crank to match
No other error codes present that will shut the ECU down
voltage drop while cranking

 

[RDM1]

Hi there I've been having bad connection lately and might not be able to chat and respond freely I'll check the video in your message when the connection allows me i think I'll put my hand on the spark plug to check for a spark and if i get shocked then it'll mean that there is

 

[RDM1]

That's while cranking on all 4 spark plugs

 

[koalar]

As in the video, there's no need to crank the car at all at this stage

 

[RDM1]

As in the video, there's no need to crank the car at all at this stage

Was checking for spark while cranking on all 4 coil ports

 

[RDM1]

And this one is while giving order from the scan tool,as 3 and 4 won't work i ran 1 and 2 on all 4 ports anyway as you can see in the video no apparent spark on all 4.
And for some reason i got these fault again but the live data stream as you can see in the picture is giving RPM feedback from the ecu which makes me at a loss as to why I'm getting the p0335 DTC.

 

[koalar]

Right that's good

There's no need to keep cranking the car unless you actually fix something or change something


Clear the codes

Switch off for 1 minute

Do a throttle body relearn

Switch off for 1 minute

Read the codes

 

[RDM1]

Apparently mine doesn't support that unless it's one of those if there is a manual way to do it it'd be easier otherwise I'm gonna have to wait for a friend with a better scan tool

 

[RDM1]

And about the cranking as i mentioned i was just checking for a spark and did on all four in case there was one among all four that is working but no all are dead

 

[RDM1]

So is there a manual throttle relearn procedure or it's gonna have to be run through a diagnostic tool?

 

[koalar]

Back probe the brown and red wire to any injector

Multimeter on volts, other lead on battery negative

Using the scan tool do a injector test on any injector what is the voltage

 

[RDM1]

Tried the first, and when i triggered with the scanner i got battery voltage

 

[koalar]

So is there a manual throttle relearn procedure or it's gonna have to be run through a diagnostic tool?

Software only now, as far as I know

Older cars

Switch the ignition on wait for 30 seconds
Switch the ignition off wait for 30 seconds
Switch the ignition on wait for 30 seconds
Switch the ignition off wait for 30 seconds

No longer works, I believe

 

[RDM1]

And by first i mean the first one on the passenger side and named injector 1 on ancel

 

[RDM1]

Alright will try it with a precise timer

 

[koalar]

Alright will try it with a precise timer

I pretty sure it no longer works, can't be 100% as I haven't tried it on the Panda