Technical '06 Panda crank sensor issue.....

[koalar]

Seeing as it's happend before, and the crank sensor wiring has melted

Is the heat shield missing from the exhaust

 

[RDM1]

Nope it's still there a crack or 2 but still mainly in one piece

 

[koalar]

There is an offical fix for the crank poison sensor side

We never see a problem here in the UK

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All models, 1.2 8v Petrol Euro 4, Natural Power and LPG 1032 1 171 KB TIMING CONTROL BELT PROTECTIVE COVER Overheating - Service Solution Cancels and replaces SN 10.14.10 of 02/04/2010 through the addition of new contents. FAULT COMPLAINED OF​ The Customer complains of one or more of the following problems: 1 - Overheating marks on the timing control belt cover, next to the heat shield of the exhaust manifold. 2 - Occasional hard starting with rpm sensor error (P0335). 3 - Switching on of insufficient engine oil pressure warning light. TECHNICAL CAUSE​ In especially hard utilisation conditions, the heat shield thermal insulation could be inefficient, causing one or more of the claimed faults. OPERATIONS IN PRODUCTION​ Application of an additional heat shield on the timing cover. IPLEMENTATION OF MODIFICATION​ Version Factory Line Chassis No. Organisation No. All models in question Natural Power versions Tycky - 1570204 - All models in question LPG versions Tycky - 1570197 3155129 OPERATIONS IN NETWORK​ NETWORK BEHAVIOUR STANDARDS TOWARDS THE CUSTOMER​ -Once the customer's claimed fault is confirmed, reassure the Customer that it can be solved by fitting an additional heat shield on the timing cover.-After the operation, show the Customer what has been done and make sure he is satisfied. SERVICE SOLUTION​ If the claimed fault is confirmed, apply an additional heat shield on the timing cover and, if required, restore the correct conditions of the electric cables for rpm sensor, engine oil insufficient pressure switch and of the timing control protective cover, according to the Operating Cycle below. OPERATION CYCLE​ Position the vehicle on the lift: - disconnect the negative battery terminal. - remove the timing control protective cover, with reference to Op. 1032D12 of the Service Manual and, if it is damaged, replace it with a new one from the Spare Part Dpt. - check the conditions of the rpm sensor and of the engine oil insufficient pressure switch cables: -if they are intact, engage the cables in the places inside the protective cover and apply a heat shield, contained in the kit no. 55229609 from the Spare Part Dpt., as described in cycle C.-if the cables are damaged, repair the wiring, by the kit no. 55231912 from the Spare Part Dpt., as described in cycle A: for the wiring of the engine oil low pressure switch, as described in cycle B: for the wiring of the rpm sensor. Then, apply the heat shield, as described in cycle C. Cycle A - Repair of the wiring for the engine oil low pressure switch -disconnect the electrical connection for the engine oil low pressure switch (1 - Fig. 1);-remove the insulating tape and take out from the corrugated sheath (2) the cable for the engine oil insufficient pressure switch; Fig. 1 -cut the cable (1 - Fig. 2) for the engine oil insufficient pressure switch at about 100 mm from the branch;-strip the cable end on the branch side by about 10 mm, as shown. Fig. 2 -complying with Op. 5590B01 or 5590B04 of the Service Manual: connect to the engine oil insufficient pressure switch the harness (1 - Fig. 3) available in the kit, by the junction thermal shrinking tube (2) in the same package.-engage the cable for the engine oil low pressure switch inside the corrugated sheath and engage the same, by insulating tape, in the corrugated sheath (3) of the engine pre-wired cable branch. Fig. 3 Cycle B - Repair of engine rpm sensor wiring -disconnect the electrical connection for the engine rpm sensor (1 - Fig. 4); Fig. 4 -then cut the cable (1 - Fig. 5) of the rpm sensor at about 190 mm from the branch;-fit the section of thermal shrinking sheath (2) available in the kit in the cable section connected to the engine pre-wiring;-strip the cable end by about 40 mm, as shown in figure and divide the shielding braid from the signal cables. Fig. 5 Working on Natural Power versions -strip by about 10 mm the signal cable ends and, complying with Op. 5590B01 or 5590B04 of the Service Manual: connect the signal cables (1 - Fig. 6) of the harness available in the kit and the shielding braid (2), by the thermal shrinking junction tubes in the same package. Fig. 6 -Wrap the area concerned with the operation with the sticky aluminum sheet (1 - Fig. 7) available in the kit, to restore the harness shielding. Fig. 7 Working on Petrol and LPG versions -strip by about 10 mm the signal cable ends and, complying with Op. 5590B01 or 5590B04 of the Service Manual: connect the signal cables (1 - Fig. 8) of the harness available in the kit and cut the excess of the shielding braid (2), in the wiring inside the repair kit. Fig. 8 Working on all versions -slide the section of thermal shrinking sheath (1 - Fig. 9), until symmetrically covering the junction area;-use a drier to heat the sheath so that it moulds on the harness and makes a perfect seal. Fig. 9 -engage, by insulating tape sections, the two harnesses of the rpm sensor and of the engine oil insufficient pressure switch, then engage them in the relevant places on the protective cover.-connect the electrical connections to the engine rpm sensor and to the engine oil insufficient pressure switch.-then, install the heat shield kit carrying out the following Cycle C. Cycle C - Application of the heat shield kit on the timing control protective cover. -undo the fixing screws and nuts and move the exhaust manifold heat shield to one side, as shown in Fig. 10. Fig. 10 -undo the lower screw (1 - Fig. 11) of the timing belt protective sheet;-position the heat shield (2) available in the kit, as shown;-Fasten the heat shield with the fixing screw (1) for the previously removed sheet Fig. 11 -manually shape the heat shield (1 - Fig. 12) on the timing belt guard, as shown;-fasten the heat shield to the timing belt guard fin, using the screw (2) available in the kit. Fig. 12 -Position again the exhaust manifold heat shield in place and tighten the fixing bolts and nuts.-Complete the refitting operations for the removed components, with reference to Op. 1032D12 of the Service Manual,-Connect the negative battery terminal; Remove the vehicle from the lift. AVALABILITY OF PARTS​ Version Description Part No. Q.ty All models in question Upper protective cover 55192315 1 All models in question Lower protective cover 55193759 1 All models in question Heat shield kit 55229609 1 All models in question Kit with harness for insufficient oil pressure switch + rpm sensor 55231912 1 CLAIM REPORT DATA​ Version Operation Piece Fault Position Time allowance All models in question 1032118 (*) 1 KB - 0.90 (*) All models in question 1032117 (**) 1 KB - 1.20 (**) (*) Operation Code and Time allowance for: -timing control protective cover replacement;-heat shield application. (**) Operation Code and Time allowance for: -timing control protective cover replacement;-repair of wiring for engine rpm sensor and for engine oil insufficient pressure switch;-heat shield application.

 

[RDM1]

The burn was back from the previous owner the damage done was done but in the 5 years i owned the car again i haven't experienced this issue again

 

[RDM1]

Now it's an interesting idea of adding this aluminium extra heat shield from the oil pressure and CPS but first we need the car to run again and I'm considering an ECU heat shield beforehand fixing it to the coil packs or the ECU bolts themselves or in worst case moving the ECU somewhere else altogether