My dream punto 188
*S2000 199 i4 16v dohc engine
270 hp + vvt intake
Plus
*Twin scroll trubo +bov +wastage gate +turbo cooler
*Cold air intake + intercooler
*Catless header +center box + dual back box+mufflers
*cvt automatic transmission from 1.2 16v sporting sequential manual 6speed+speed gear-if fits or equivalent -+steering shifting pedals+ transmission cooler
*AWD system front +center +rear electronic diffrent
*air suspension system +struts
*4piston caliper front 330 disk brakes +4 piston caliper 300 rear disk brakes +hydraulic brake lines +ABS system +EBD+hill assist +tct device +esp+drive control -all systems from 188 abarth-
*tuning chip + ecu remapping
*dry oil sump +dry oil pump +oil cooler +oil catcher + oil pressure regulator
*rally sport fuel pump +fuel pressure regulator +rally mpi injectors+laser iridium sparks +rally spark plugs +sport coils

*15 inch wide ally wheels+spacers+split runflat tires
This is stage 1 handling + performance
To be continued...

"tuning chip + ECU rempping"
"F20C with 4wd"
"330mm breakes under 15inch wheels"
"automatic FWD gearbox paired to F20C with 4wd"
I don't want to be an asshole but do you know anything about cars?

perhaps i know more about cars than you are .
i said if if it fits or equivalent
im talking ideas not specific diameters
i wrote about the fwd transmission cvt sequential manual cuz i like the cvt otherwise any other box would fit with the same principle no big deal .
330 brakes if it fits on a 15 inch if not
a bigger rims or a smaller disk
why so serious my friend ,is that all what you got to say
!!

the f20c is already a awd
here
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/3131/Fiat-Abarth-Grand-Punto-S2000.html

except due to s2000 regulation no supported electrically devices are allowed ,
all mechanical ,
but if i'm able to add whatever i want why don't i ??

do some little homework before start criticizing others
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/381996-FWD-to-AWD-Conversion

https://www.quora.com/How-much-does...less-likely-but-how-much-to-change-AWD-to-RWD

All seems legit, the S2000 engine was a €50,000 factory special, it would happily tear a 1.2 CVT gearbox in half. You can’t fit Awd to a Fiat 1.2 cvt gearbox. Fiat don’t make an equivalent that would work, the s2000 had a motorsport specific gearbox from a specialist motorsport company.

Not sure why you would want air suspension on a performance car...

As already pointed out the brakes and calliper combo wouldn’t fit the wheels, also the tyres (runflats) would make the ride hard and uncomfortable and would add nothing to the handling.

It does seem like you’ve taken a whole variety of parts and mashed them together without any knowhow.

And yes you can post links to an Audi forum but it’s worth noting the B7 Audi A4 comes out of the factory with 4wd and a cvt gearbox big brakes and powerful engines.... so it seems your ideal punto 188 is actually an Audi S4 Quattro..... which in all honesty would definitely work out cheaper and more reliable.

We all had dreams like that.Me too ,i admit it .

But after my 14th birthday i got over it since i learnt was realism is.

look at this

Fiat Punto S1600

1.6 engine at 215hp in 1000kg

For everyday car?
Output power - torgue 210 - 215 HP / 9000 rpm
20.0 kgm (196 Nm) / 6600 rpm*



* http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/fiat-punto-type-188-s1600

flisko said:

look at this

Fiat Punto S1600

1.6 engine at 215hp in 1000kg

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Yep custom made, rally car, not road legal in the U.K. and would cost you €65,000 despite being built nearly 15 years ago....

You can get one hell of a road going car for €65,000

You could buy a 2013 Audi R8.... I know what I would rather have and what would be the better car ...

AndyRKett said:

Yep custom made, rally car, not road legal in the U.K. and would cost you €65,000 despite being built nearly 15 years ago....

You can get one hell of a road going car for €65,000

You could buy a 2013 Audi R8.... I know what I would rather have and what would be the better car ...

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Agreed.. but I think he wanted something 'special..'

flisko said:

look at this

Fiat Punto S1600

1.6 engine at 215hp in 1000kg

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That's a destroked HGT basically and you can get those to 200HP NA on stock internals. With a **** ton of work

aFiFi said:

the f20c is already a awd
here
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/spec/3131/Fiat-Abarth-Grand-Punto-S2000.html

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Uhmm no, I don't want to argue with you but please get some knowledge before making a fool of yourself. F20C is the engine that comes in AP1 S2K, it's RWD. You can convert everything to awd but it will cost an arm and leg. It's better to base everything around Fiat's parts bin. For example I've seen Puntos GT with awd from Delta Integrale, you can use that as a starting point

AnteLo said:

Uhmm no, I don't want to argue with you but please get some knowledge before making a fool of yourself. F20C is the engine that comes in AP1 S2K, it's RWD. You can convert everything to awd but it will cost an arm and leg. It's better to base everything around Fiat's parts bin. For example I've seen Puntos GT with awd from Delta Integrale, you can use that as a starting point

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Nowadays i have a better project a Gm hurricane 2.0 i4 turbocharged engine mated with 850RE awd automatic transmission producing 270 hp with all the extra work like exhaust system and cold air intercooler. Plus other coolers and pressure regulators. Not mentioning a wet to dry engine oil cooling system conversion.

varesecrazy said:

Agreed.. but I think he wanted something 'special..'

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This is not that special, [emoji6]
This is just an idea for getting some better performance of that [emoji222]
If im going to look further i would get a camaro ss 5th gen and an lt5 engine crate out of the corvette zr.
Its about 750 hp build.
If we are talking engines n ssspecial

aFiFi said:

Nowadays i have a better project a Gm hurricane 2.0 i4 turbocharged engine mated with 850RE awd automatic transmission producing 270 hp with all the extra work like exhaust system and cold air intercooler. Plus other coolers and pressure regulators. Not mentioning a wet to dry engine oil cooling system conversion.

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While you’re there you can fix the problems this engine come out of the factory with, there was already a recall for engine built with missing parts. Thinks like an intercooler are completely standard on a turbo engine, as is an exhaust, no idea what you are talking about with pressure regulators and there is absolutely no power gain or benefit to be had by switching this engine to a dry sump.

You really do not seem to know much about what you are talking about, why would you fit a large, heavy automatic suv transmission if you want small and quick.

aFiFi said:

This is not that special, [emoji6]
This is just an idea for getting some better performance of that [emoji222]
If im going to look further i would get a camaro ss 5th gen and an lt5 engine crate out of the corvette zr.
Its about 750 hp build.
If we are talking engines n ssspecial

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You can get a standard Camarillo with 450hp which if you’re used to driving a punto, is more than plenty. You can get a Camaro with 700hp, in which case why change the engine for an extra 50hp, or you buys a camaro exorsist with 1000hp from the factory.

You do see to by playing a game of top trumps with car bits but again, don’t seem to know a great deal.

AndyRKett said:

While you’re there you can fix the problems this engine come out of the factory with, there was already a recall for engine built with missing parts. Thinks like an intercooler are completely standard on a turbo engine, as is an exhaust, no idea what you are talking about with pressure regulators and there is absolutely no power gain or benefit to be had by switching this engine to a dry sump.

You really do not seem to know much about what you are talking about, why would you fit a large, heavy automatic suv transmission if you want small and quick.



You can get a standard Camarillo with 450hp which if you’re used to driving a punto, is more than plenty. You can get a Camaro with 700hp, in which case why change the engine for an extra 50hp, or you buys a camaro exorsist with 1000hp from the factory.

You do see to by playing a game of top trumps with car bits but again, don’t seem to know a great deal.

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Im just an amateur not a professional like you think yourself are.