Technical Windscreen washer not working but rear OK

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Technical Windscreen washer not working but rear OK

crazypierre

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Hi there,
New to this Forum although not new to this site as I've had a 1979 Mirafiori for a while.
Glad to be part of the Seicento community!
I've searched the previous posts on washer problems but can't find one with the same problem as I'm having so wondered if anyone can help:

Car: 2001 Seicento Michael Schmacher 1.1

The rear washer works but no water comes out of the front one when I pull back on the stalk.
I can hear the electric pump spinning when I activate the front washer.
I disconnected the black pipe before the front washer non return valve (near the bonnet strut/battery) and tried the washer and no water comes out of the pipe so it's not the non return valve that's blocked.

I can only conclude it's a blockage to the front pipe between where I disconnected it from the non return valve and the bottle?
Would you advise I connect a syringe to the pipe and try pumping air down the pipe to dislodge the blockage or will that damage the motor?

Or perhaps suck air out of the pipe with the syringe as I activate the motor?

I'd like to get away without removing the arch liner if I can.

BTW, Is it one motor that operates front and back?

Thanks for any advice you can give.
Cheers
Pete
 
Earlier models have 2 pumps with later ones having 1.
They are crap and always fail. If it used to work, chances are its the pump needs replacing.

You may be lucky and there is a blockage. You can try the syringe idea. Won't do it any harm.
 
crazypierre

I did a basic guide on screen washers...bottom of GUIDES list..in misc.


If its 1 pump..you may have a blockage.. one common issue.. the feed hose goes to the centre of car..then has a little Y connector..built in non.return this can get full of clag if the system is neglected.

Maybe mentioned in bravo/a marea sections.

I know I took pics for my strip down in 2016
 
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Thanks very much for your replies. I've tried the syringe both pushing and pulling but it's not letting water or air down the pipe or out of it. Must be really blocked up.

Will try some more tomorrow before removing the wheel and arch liner which will be a pain.

Peter
 
The only thing to try is to remove the wheel arch liner, then disconnect the tube to the pump and see if it squirts out fluid when you work the stalk.

I'd guess the motor is still working but the plastic impeller blades are detached from the spindle.. so the motor goes round but there's no "pumping" happening. New motor is the fix.


Ralf S.
 
its usually the non return valves theres 2 of them in the bay one near the locking mechanism pull it out and simply bursty through it with a tin screwdriver...refit ...try your washers...if the rears not working then do the same again for the non return valve it usually sits near the bonnet stay on the drivers wing if after all this and its not spraying water then its new motor time there about 13 quid on ebay drivers wheel off arch liner off and you will see the motor ....all diy .

one last tip is to disconnect the hoses where they join the screen wash jets and try the switch and if water is coming out the hoses then whip the jets off the car soak them in a glass of hot water and vinegar and get into them with a fine needle/pin
 
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