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Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

Looking for a bit of help.
I can feel engine movement while driving, particually with quick acceleration, stop then accelerating again.
I have changed the rear gearbox mount already.
So i guess its the other 2
Never having replaced these before, im looking for a guide or how too.
Ebay has shown me that a Polish guy has both for sale new, but are there other places i can try.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

The two engine mounts are fitted similar to the rear... Support the engine, remove the mount and replace..

Usually you can support the engine where the gearbox meets the engine, using a bit of soft wood in between...

I don't think there is a guide as such, however just follow the route of unbolting and re-bolting doing ONE mount at a time.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

Worth giving Big Mick at eurocarcare a bell. Factor in postage, mention the forum, etc.

There's not a lot to it. Do one side at a time, support the engine at the gearbox or with a bloody great peice of wood under the sump (to avoid denting it).
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

But the engine moves a lot on new mounts, as well inserts or sticca flex will make driving more difficult.

And they are expensive
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

fill the old mounts full of tigerseal (Y) ive had my mounts on for 4 year on my old car and there still solid
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fill the old mounts full of tigerseal (Y) ive had my mounts on for 4 year on my old car and there still solid
get the strongflex poly inserts, probably works out cheaper and less messy !

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get the strongflex poly inserts, probably works out cheaper and less messy !

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The Strongflex rear mount is too hard and makes driving the car unpleasant while it shakes itself to pieces. Even the red rear one is far too hard however the side ones aren't too bad (but it's the rear one that's usually goosed). Even if going Sika or poly I'd start with new mounts, I get mine from Unto PL where they cost about the same as the postage from a UK company.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

Quote Originally Posted by alfacool View Post
Looking for a bit of help.
I can feel engine movement while driving, particually with quick acceleration, stop then accelerating again.
I have changed the rear gearbox mount already.
So i guess its the other 2
Never having replaced these before, im looking for a guide or how too.
Ebay has shown me that a Polish guy has both for sale new, but are there other places i can try.
Thanks.
Remove your new rear mount degrease gunk whatever then washing up liquid lots of water and dry then sticcaflex, tigerseal or generic PU to reduce fore and aft movement only then leave for 24 hours before refitting

You could do the other axis as well but you won't notice any difference, might be simpler to leave it the way it is unless you have a lot more torque than stock.

It is a subjective thing.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

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The Strongflex rear mount is too hard and makes driving the car unpleasant while it shakes itself to pieces. Even the red rear one is far too hard however the side ones aren't too bad (but it's the rear one that's usually goosed). Even if going Sika or poly I'd start with new mounts, I get mine from Unto PL where they cost about the same as the postage from a UK company.
I run all the yellow engine mounts in mine . IT's true it's not for everybody lol!

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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

i would fit oem mount myself, my car is for the road and driven on the road. I like the fact my sei can be fast and fun but still comfortable and quiet.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

I dont need to do the rear mount.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

Nope like you say, you need this and this:

http://www.unto.pl/poduszka-skrzyni-...nto-p-342.html

http://www.unto.pl/lapa-poduszka-sil...194-p-344.html

But the poly stuff fits inside the old, so if the old stuff is toast I wouldn't bother and just buy the new stuff. I'd grab a new rear one at the same time anyway for what they cost.

I can't say for the sikaflex I've never done it, however if the old stuff is collapsed and wonked it would seem pretty pointless. I'd guess the pinaple chunk shaped bit is probably the cause which would only usualy fail if the rear mount had been neglected for an eternity.
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

if you want it to have less movement read post #9 .

a tin of generic PU is 5
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Re: Engine movement, Worn engine mounts

On t'other hand, I'm a bit worried by what this movement might actually be. I've driven Centos with what later proved to be utterly knackered mounts (apart from the rear one, which will clunk horribly pretty early on) and felt no difference.

One of the garagistas up the road came across a left hand Cinq 899 one where the rubber had completely fallen out: that made a hell of a clunk, so I'm told.
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