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Re: Spare wheel or not?

Discs are the same size. Don't know about calipers doubt there would be much need for bigger calipers on the smaller 500.
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Discs are the same size. Don't know about calipers doubt there would be much need for bigger calipers on the smaller 500.
Front discs are bigger on the Abarth, but the rears are the same as those on the rear of a 1.4 or the front of a 1.2
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Re: Spare wheel or not?

Was meaning between Abarth and Marea.

Since it's my experience not too many people bother switching wheels about if they get a flat front and just put the space saver on the front.
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Re: Spare wheel or not?

The biggest front discs on the Marea seem to be 257mm and the Abarth ones are 284mm. It's not just the size of the discs either, it can be the offset of the wheel, the distance between the caliper and the inner face of the wheel.

Anyhoo even if it did fit it's still a space saver and you're still limited to 50mph and you're only meant to drive on it for a very short distance.

Full size spare > slightly smaller width but same diameter tyre > bicycle tyre > tyre spunk.
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Edit I did check another site but they didn't list the 2.0 oops!
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Re: Spare wheel or not?

Well, I've decided that I will look for a set of 16" wheels and use them with whatever winter tyres are available at the appropriate time of year but carry one as a spare on journeys (as well as a jack) .

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Well, I've decided that I will look for a set of 16" wheels and use them with whatever winter tyres are available at the appropriate time of year but carry one as a spare on journeys (as well as a jack) .

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The only thing I'd say about 16" wheels is that winter tyres in 195/45 r16 are as rare as rocking horse poop.
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I was just having a quick giggle thinking of Tony's (well his wifes) A500 with 15 inch multispokes off a Lounge. I think I would prefer a set of steelies with a speed restriction sticker stuck on them (the stickers now are only for show !).
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Well, I've decided that I will look for a set of 16" wheels and use them with whatever winter tyres are available at the appropriate time of year but carry one as a spare on journeys (as well as a jack) .

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3 sets of 16" Abarth wheels for sale on the Abarth forum

http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/classifieds/
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The only thing I'd say about 16" wheels is that winter tyres in 195/45 r16 are as rare as rocking horse poop.
So what do bigger cars in Europe/Scandinavia use? eg. BMW, Merc, Audi, etc, bearing in mind they usually need to buy Winter wheels/Tyres when they buy a new car.

They can't all be running around on 14" wheels surely, lol.
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So what do bigger cars in Europe/Scandinavia use? eg. BMW, Merc, Audi, etc, bearing in mind they usually need to buy Winter wheels/Tyres when they buy a new car.

They can't all be running around on 14" wheels surely, lol.
I wasn't saying winter tyres for 16" wheels don't exist, I was talking about the specific size you want to use Take a look at the Abarth forum and despite what DraigFlag says, people struggle to find winter tyres in that size
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3 sets of 16" Abarth wheels for sale on the Abarth forum

http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/classifieds/
Two sets on our own forum , although at least one of those is listed on both.
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Two sets on our own forum , although at least one of those is listed on both.
Just remember my advice to find tyres first

Mytyres is listing some Michelin's in that size for the first time ever (I have checked fairly regularly for the last couple of years) for 134 each 185/55 R15's however can be had for a far more reasonable 70-85 which is far more reasonable.
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Re: Spare wheel or not?

I would be tempted just to go for 15 inch steelies and 'cheap' winter tyres. Buy a spare 16 inch Abarth standard alloy - you often see one on ebay for sale (often they're a little scratched - but that shouldn't matter) and put a matching 'normal' tyre on it. I would also get a Marea spare (if it could be tested !) to leave in the boot so you have the option of carrying a 'light' spare.

I wouldn't be happy with mixing a winter and 'summer' tyre on the same axle.
The steelie and winter tyre just needs to be used generally for about 3 months - ok winter came early last year.
If you're into tyre rotation you could include the new full sized spare as part of the rotation to stretch the overall life of the tyres.
I think carrying a full sized spare in boot is carrying a lot of unnecessary weight unless you're done a long journey into the 'back end of nowhere'.
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