Hi, after finally getting the Blue&Me MAP device working on 2010 car with 68R dash mount and a lot of help from 'Hacky' who I mentioned in the original post sorted it, we decided it was not really that good on the graphics for the satnav and a bit basic on searching locations.

So we (well the daughter) decided we should upgrade to the later TomTom 2 which has much more features and better graphics. Not badly priced second hand as needs a different cradle for the dash but still came in under £150........'OH NO' said the Fiat dealer it is not possible, ''your car has been programmed for the B&M MAP and will not recognise the B&M TomTom for pairing so you will only have a basic satnav. It will cost several hundred pounds to get the car reprogrammed even if it is possible we were told.

So over to 'Hacky' for some help........Hacky is my work partner busting online scammers.

He started off by getting into the official Blue&Me web site that covers both MAP and TomTom. By getting into all the programmes found out what makes each one recognise both the type of device and the type of car so the TomTom displays the car on startup and replaces the ..''find blue&me logo''.


After rewriting the program this was then fed back into the car through the USB and after pairing we now have a fully functional TomTom 2 replacing the Magneti Marelli MAP......

Everything else works fine as no rewriting of the cars software involved just making the car recognise we had fitted a TomTom 2 and not Magneti Marelli MAP. The TomTom is also a little more streamlined with a larger screen but smaller exterior.


It is hard to believe these dealers can't provide this service.

End result daughter is very happy and it displays so many features even allowing the ipod music to be switched on with voice commands.

The program coding is common for the TomTom but is specific on the line command for the vehicle model and there were lots of Fiat/Alfa/Lancia vehicles to choose from even the Abarth has its own coding so the TomTom displays the vehicle on the screen.

Farrah

Wow, that is really impressive ! I guess your friend Hacky could earn some nice money on the side in the Fiat community, fixing all the SW issues Fiat cannot or will not solve.

Hi Mike,

Hacky says thanks for the compliment but he has access to all the funds he needs

In fact he could probably strip your bank balance just from your car registration number, but he prefers his freedom.

Probably worthwhile though adding the link here to the original post where all this started


https://www.fiatforum.com/500/479397-fiat-500-blue-me-map-sat-nav-help.html ...................so glad we perservered and did not give up as originally only really wanted a working satnav.


Anyone though who still has the old Blue&Me MAP and wants to upgrade to the far superior Blue&Me TomTom then there are lots of cheap ones on ebay and don't be put off by dealers saying it is not possible......Hacky I am sure will provide a statement of what to do and help you FOC if you take the plunge. It is a simple change of code in a command line.


My daughter is more than happy now with what we have installed and everything works a treat with the added advantage of 'live' services if desired. Even gives visual display on the TomTom screen of the trip and fuel eco data etc and general performance.

Personally I actually think it is safer to use than what is in my Range Rover where I have two huge LCD screens for sat nav and general switches. I have to physically look down all the time at the screen where to touch as no general control buttons just all touch graphics. The Blue&Me with the TomTom is totally voice command.

Farrah