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Oh yes and then I shut my finger in the door. Plank :P

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Hope it was not too painful
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I'd be inclined to ask the dealer to replace it at their expense, as they did them up too tight.
I've ordered some now. It was a few months back now that they worked on it and I doubt they would admit such a school boy.
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Ouch!!
Hope it was not too painful
I was lucky, it didn't fully close so finger survived without breaking or more importantly damaging little Hugo!

My wife shut her hand in a the door of a Picasso and the door was bent!
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Re: Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

A tip from an old engineer who has years and years of experience playing with cars... Before you try to remove the bolts with your new key, get a piece of steel bar or an old socket extension, and using a metal hammer give the head of the locking bolt a couple of sharp knocks. The shock will help to release the tension holding the bolt so tight.

Another poster mentioned removing all the other bolts first, well, that's exactly the opposite of what I do. I always slacken the locking bolt first, and tighten it last. The other three bolts will be doing all the work when you try undoing the locker.

NEVER let a garage anywhere near your car with an air gun. They are totally unnecessary, normally damage the threads during tightening and often mark the wheels. On a Lancia I once owned, the apprentice "mechanic" managed to get all four bolts in one wheel on an angle. The idiot totally mullered all the threads and wrecked all four bolts. That garage paid dearly for my car!!

Good luck with your efforts, don't forget to add a very thin smear of coppaslip to the rear mounting faces of your wheels. This will save them from sticking onto the hubs in future. The thinnest of smears is enough, just enough that you can only just see it.
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Another poster mentioned removing all the other bolts first, well, that's exactly the opposite of what I do. I always slacken the locking bolt first, and tighten it last. The other three bolts will be doing all the work when you try undoing the locker.
I always remove the locking wheel but first as you suggest.
Can't say I have tried giving them a whack first. Once the new key arrives I'm sure it will come of ok but ill give it the Clarkson treatment first
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Hi, I had this problem with my Stilo, the tyre centre overtightened the locking nuts so much that they broke the key. Fiat main dealer was useless.
My local garage spent 2 hours on it and only got one off .
I Googled 'Locking wheel nut remover' and top of the page is a company that guarantees to get them off , locking wheel nuts removed, or you can find them on face book as the same name.
They got the 3 off in 20 minutes.

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Re: Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

It's so annoying when garages do the nuts up so tight they break the 'key'.
There is no excuse for not using the correct torque. They all have torque wrenches, they are just too lazy to use them : /
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Re: Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

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Hi, I had this problem with my Stilo, the tyre centre overtightened the locking nuts so much that they broke the key. Fiat main dealer was useless.
My local garage spent 2 hours on it and only got one off .
I Googled 'Locking wheel nut remover' and top of the page is a company that guarantees to get them off , locking wheel nuts removed, or you can find them on face book as the same name.
They got the 3 off in 20 minutes.

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So what's your role within said company?

Call me cynical...but it's your only post on the forum and you all but advertise this super-duper company and making a wild claim like that?

There's a reason people struggle to remove locking wheel nuts without the key...it's what they're designed for - and short of causing a lot of damage to either the car and/or tools...I can't see how they can be so quick?!
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I can't see how they can be so quick?!
they may have a master set and a kettle
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Re: Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

I got replacements of eBay. Just sent them a picture of the head of the nut. Mind it was soooo over tightened I was worried it would shear! Didn't though and now all wheel nuts bolts are correctly torqued.
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I got replacements of eBay. Just sent them a picture of the head of the nut.
Sort of loses the security somewhat.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

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Sort of loses the security somewhat.
not really although the code number is a nice long one there are only a few different keys........ Either that or there is a strange fluke that another member on here has the same key as mine...... its ok tho if my wheels go missing he will wake to find his car on bricks
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Sort of loses the security somewhat.
There's only around 20 different keys. So they're not 'secure' as such anyway. Not in the same sense as your door lock.
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There's only around 20 different keys. So they're not 'secure' as such anyway. Not in the same sense as your door lock.
Sounds about right,
I remember when I bought a set of Coupe / Tempra alloys from a breaker - they were still on the car,
asking if he had a key set = he gave me a ##mm BI-HEX Socket ( and a hammer), and said they remove 90% of locking bolts = he WAS CORRECT ,

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Re: Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

At least the McGard type that FIAT use are a bit harder in this regard as the outer ring spins, but thats easily smashed off if needs be.

Point is, if someone wants something, there's a way to get it.
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