General Locking wheel nuts driving me nuts!

MaryRose · Jul 27, 2013

Hi, I had this problem with my Stilo, the tyre centre overtightened the locking nuts so much that they broke the key. Fiat main dealer was useless.
My local garage spent 2 hours on it and only got one off .
I Googled 'Locking wheel nut remover' and top of the page is a company that guarantees to get them off , locking wheel nuts removed, or you can find them on face book as the same name.
They got the 3 off in 20 minutes.

Mary

The Twins · Jul 27, 2013

It's so annoying when garages do the nuts up so tight they break the 'key'.
There is no excuse for not using the correct torque. They all have torque wrenches, they are just too lazy to use them : /

SeanW · Jul 27, 2013

MaryRose said:
Hi, I had this problem with my Stilo, the tyre centre overtightened the locking nuts so much that they broke the key. Fiat main dealer was useless.
My local garage spent 2 hours on it and only got one off .
I Googled 'Locking wheel nut remover' and top of the page is a company that guarantees to get them off , locking wheel nuts removed, or you can find them on face book as the same name.
They got the 3 off in 20 minutes.

Mary

So what's your role within said company?

Call me cynical...but it's your only post on the forum and you all but advertise this super-duper company and making a wild claim like that?

There's a reason people struggle to remove locking wheel nuts without the key...it's what they're designed for - and short of causing a lot of damage to either the car and/or tools...I can't see how they can be so quick?!

dave · Jul 27, 2013

SeanW said:
I can't see how they can be so quick?!

they may have a master set and a kettle

simon willgress · Jul 28, 2013

I got replacements of eBay. Just sent them a picture of the head of the nut. Mind it was soooo over tightened I was worried it would shear! Didn't though and now all wheel nuts bolts are correctly torqued.

portland_bill · Jul 28, 2013

simon willgress said:
I got replacements of eBay. Just sent them a picture of the head of the nut.

Sort of loses the security somewhat.

Andy Monty · Jul 28, 2013

portland_bill said:
Sort of loses the security somewhat.

not really although the code number is a nice long one there are only a few different keys........ Either that or there is a strange fluke that another member on here has the same key as mine...... its ok tho if my wheels go missing he will wake to find his car on bricks :devil:

bgunn · Jul 28, 2013

portland_bill said:
Sort of loses the security somewhat.

There's only around 20 different keys. So they're not 'secure' as such anyway. Not in the same sense as your door lock.

varesecrazy · Jul 28, 2013

bgunn said:
There's only around 20 different keys. So they're not 'secure' as such anyway. Not in the same sense as your door lock.

Sounds about right,
I remember when I bought a set of Coupe / Tempra alloys from a breaker - they were still on the car,
asking if he had a key set = he gave me a ##mm BI-HEX Socket ( and a hammer), and said they remove 90% of locking bolts = he WAS CORRECT ,

:worship:

Charlie

bgunn · Jul 28, 2013

At least the McGard type that FIAT use are a bit harder in this regard as the outer ring spins, but thats easily smashed off if needs be.

Point is, if someone wants something, there's a way to get it.

dombooth · Jul 28, 2013

Andy Monty said:
not really although the code number is a nice long one there are only a few different keys........ Either that or there is a strange fluke that another member on here has the same key as mine...... its ok tho if my wheels go missing he will wake to find his car on bricks :devil:

Now why would I want your wheels Monty?

Dom

Andy Monty · Jul 28, 2013

dombooth said:
Now why would I want your wheels Monty?

Dom

You don't....... :devil:

dombooth · Jul 28, 2013

Andy Monty said:
You don't....... :devil:

And you don't want mine, trust me.

Dom

beany_bot · Jul 30, 2013

If your really struggling you can buy a reverse thread wheel nut remover that will bite into the locking nut and rip it right out. It will ruin the locking nut but at least you've got it out. Also the very fact that these are readily and cheaply avaliable makes locking wheels nuts rather redundant anyway.
http://www.tooled-up.com/product/se...oductlisting&gclid=CJPh5uXz1rgCFfLHtAodO0UAbw

Andy Monty · Jul 30, 2013

beany_bot said:
If your really struggling you can buy a reverse thread wheel nut remover that will bite into the locking nut and rip it rightw out. It will ruin the locking nut but at least you've got it out. Also the very fact that these are readily and cheaply avaliable makes locking wheels nuts rather redundant anyway.

Which won't work on OEM fiat lock studs due to the slip ring collar without a bit of work ...

Like anything you can get round any security device you can help yourself to a BMW keyless car for about a 200 outlay and drive it away in under 1 min

portland_bill · Jul 30, 2013

Andy Monty said:
you can help yourself to a BMW keyless car for about a 200 outlay and drive it away in under 1 min

£200 for a BMW. Still overpriced.

MaryRose · Sep 25, 2013

SeanW said:
So what's your role within said company?

Call me cynical...but it's your only post on the forum and you all but advertise this super-duper company and making a wild claim like that?

There's a reason people struggle to remove locking wheel nuts without the key...it's what they're designed for - and short of causing a lot of damage to either the car and/or tools...I can't see how they can be so quick?!

Hi SeanW, I apologise, I didn't realise there was a minimum number of posts before you could pass on helpful advice.
I do not see how you can be so rude as to criticize my first hand experience when you admit that you cannot see how it is done. No damage to the wheels.

dave · Sep 25, 2013

MaryRose said:
Hi SeanW, I apologise, I didn't realise there was a minimum number of posts before you could pass on helpful advice.

there is a rule if you have involvement with the company

MaryRose · Oct 6, 2013

And?
What is this? a poor attempt to make up for a rude, ill mannered response?

306maxi · Oct 6, 2013

MaryRose said:
And?
What is this? a poor attempt to make up for a rude, ill mannered response?

Be nice to Dave, he's "special"

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