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Come to change the wheels on wife's project, however the threads on the locking wheel nuts are different - not substantially, but different all the same.

So i know seems obvious to me right now, but can i fit these? are they going to knacker the threads on the hubs?

The angle of the photo might make it look like the nut/screw part are different widths but they arent.
just the thread is slightly different pattern
 
Yep, I noticed that on mine.
I had to change the front tyres because the walls were cracked and date was 2012. loads of tread left but date and cracks meant defo change time.

As soon as I took the bolts off I recognised the differences, the threads were chewed. I made a point of putting them back in the holes they came out of, but that now on my list of things to do.
As a life long production engineer/machinist, I used to make threads of various different sizes all day long. So I know they're ok for a while, but it's already nagging me.

I haven't looked yet, but are these bolt on bearing/hubs?
 
Unless you live in chav central is there any point in locking wheel nuts on old low value cars? I binned mine after one of them seized on my 2007 159. If anyone wants my kerbed alloys they are welcome to them :D
 
Not that many years ago, alloy wheels were an option on most cars, and tended to get stolen. Now, nearly everything has alloys, so there is little market for stolen ones. But, we persist with locking nuts/bolts. Probably only useful if fancy aftermarket wheels are fitted.

Early Land Rover Discovery alloy wheels could be fitted to all older Land Rovers. When the Discovery became available on the company car fleet, and with a special deal, so many managers chose one. With the spare wheel mounted outside, on the back door, with no locking nuts, 20 disappeared overnight around Oxford. Happy days.

Back in the mid seventies, working in a Rover dealership, we arrived one morning to find a Dolomite Sprint had 'lost' its alloy wheels. Car was not retail, so some steels were found, and the car traded.
A fortnight later, an observant policeman spotted some oiks in a Ford Escort, with fancy alloys on it. Same policeman had stopped same oiks a fortnight before, and noted their tyres were all only just legal, now they had not just good tyres, but fancy wheels too. Having paid attention to 'theft' bulletins, he looked a little closer, and made an arrest. The weels were held as evidence, until after the trial, then returned to us, nearly 6 months later. They sat in storage for years before finding a home for them.
 
Unless you live in chav central is there any point in locking wheel nuts on old low value cars? I binned mine after one of them seized on my 2007 159. If anyone wants my kerbed alloys they are welcome to them :D
I have a set of wheel nuts, so why not...? better to have than to have not

ON the other hand the next question is do i need longer wheel nuts....
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Yep, I noticed that on mine.
I had to change the front tyres because the walls were cracked and date was 2012. loads of tread left but date and cracks meant defo change time.

As soon as I took the bolts off I recognised the differences, the threads were chewed. I made a point of putting them back in the holes they came out of, but that now on my list of things to do.
As a life long production engineer/machinist, I used to make threads of various different sizes all day long. So I know they're ok for a while, but it's already nagging me.

I haven't looked yet, but are these bolt on bearing/hubs?
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Just clarifying here @GettinBetter
 
Unless you live in chav central is there any point in locking wheel nuts on old low value cars? I binned mine after one of them seized on my 2007 159. If anyone wants my kerbed alloys they are welcome to them :D
With the current cost of tyres through the roof, I think I will hand on to mine if the threads are in fact the correct side for the car....
 
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Yours Appear to be for a Punto or other FIAT joint venture. So the wrong thread pitch for a 500/panda

Sounds like you don't have the 4 extra Factory bolts

But my OLD photo seems to also show @20mm of thread
the car has existing 4 steel wheels 14" (Pop) - 16 existing bolts (is that what you meant?) all the same as left hand bolt in second photo.
The locking kit was ordered off (second hand) ebay and i now think its a punto kit as you said above - just found same model number on ebay saying punto :(
alloys are pre-facelift style again bought off ebay
agree about thread, but yours seem to have less turns...i count 13 on your locking which is the same as mine ...but the actual existing nut has 14+
so the difference is thread size there?
 
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Just been reading this thread.....



somewhat confused now
 
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