Nuova500 said:

You cannot compere a Citroen to a smart no one else will ever make a serious smart rival, they havent the bottle Look at Toyotas awful effort in the IQ!!!

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erm don't think I was trying to!

Nuova500 said:

You cannot compere a Citroen to a smart no one else will ever make a serious smart rival, they havent the bottle Look at Toyotas awful effort in the IQ!!!

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You're just jealous coz the iQ has 3 seats

LOL, and no boot

and no charisma lol

As I said, there is no smart alternative, to a 500

The iQ is a big lump with uncomfortable seats, a gear lever too far down, and rear access fit only for Chinese gymnasts. And yes, no boot; nix.

The Smart is almost good, but the lurchy gearbox and the terrible thirst conspire to make it less than the sum of its parts. Easy to get into though.

Im very happy with my smarts gearbox, it can lurch but if you drive it properly it will change as good as any autobox... you just have to know how to do it As for the fuel consumption, Im averaging 55mpg and I dont hang around either. I varies wildly from 44mpg low to 65mpg high and for no reason either!

Yes, overall the 500 is a better bet for most people, but IMHO the smart has loads more character because of its little foibles and that lovely sounding Mitsi 3 pot engine.
Jenny asked today if I miss my 500 as we saw loads of them today (all BNW though).
I hadnt thought if I had before and to be honest I dont, I miss my old Panda and really am pining for my 126 but no regrets about letting the 500 go.

Nuova500 said:

...the smart has loads more character because of its little foibles and that lovely sounding Mitsi 3 pot engine.

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Does it not have the suprex any more?

pearce_jj said:

Citroen C4P has a smart-style gearbox which is described in the Citroen build docs as "Gearbox type: MCC" - not sure if that's a reference to the Smart or not really.

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YuP
MCC refers to 'Micro Compact Car' as the original company producing the smart car was called MCC Smart GmbH

We've had our Smart City Coupe Passion since Dec 2001
Also had a Smart Roadster as a company car for just under three years between 2003-06
Often thought that if our City Coupe ever died we would replace it with a 500

First saw a Smart in Paris in 1998 and knew then I just had to have one of those cars some day

First time I saw a new 500 I thought exactly the same....so one day...

Nuova500 said:

Yes, overall the 500 is a better bet for most people, but IMHO the smart has loads more character because of its little foibles and that lovely sounding Mitsi 3 pot engine.

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You should hear our Smart City Coupe Mk5 Suprex 600cc with Janspeed Stealth exhaust

It looks stock; you cannot see the performance exhaust; even has Smart Roadster steel wheels that mean it wears rubber as wide as a Brabus Smart but kinda looks like a base model smart cos of the 'steelies'; SOUNDS GREAT particularly between 4500 & 6000 revs when the turbo really kicks in....