Maybe..,but all french "mini's" of that era drove like they has broken suspension anyway..!!, we had a 205 my wife couldn't stand due to the "French -roll"..,:yuck:
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The dampers loose their efficiency and therefore get out of sync with the springs. I usually change around 30K. Didn't change the front dampers at 30K on my previous 500, only the rears, and the fronts failed spectacularly at 40K.
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Peugeot dampers are superb and are as close to Bilstein's or Koni's as you will find fitted on a cheap car. I don't know if Peugeot still do, but they used to manufacture their own dampers for all of their cars, even for their rally cars! The 306 Maxi and 206 WRC ran on Peugeot dampers. The 307 WRC ran on Peugeot dampers for a time and then they switched to Ohlins dampers IIRC and were still crap. AFAIK, Peugeot are the only manufacturer to ever win a world title in a top level form of motorsport with their own dampers.
Just because a car rolls, feels supple and compliant does not mean it's rubbish
Personally I felt that the dampers on my 500 were knackered when I got the car with 10 miles or so on the clock, they're that bad
Not that Rallycinq's opinion won't be valid, but the B14's have never had a bad review
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/301056-bilstein-b14s-ordered-3.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/213503-bilstein-b14-review.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/312392-306maxi-bought-those-bilsteins-yet.html
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Thanks Maxi! : )Not that Rallycinq's opinion won't be valid, but the B14's have never had a bad review
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/301056-bilstein-b14s-ordered-3.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/213503-bilstein-b14-review.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/312392-306maxi-bought-those-bilsteins-yet.html
Makes good reading.
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Just because a car rolls, feels supple and compliant does not mean it's rubbish
Personally I felt that the dampers on my 500 were knackered when I got the car with 10 miles or so on the clock, they're that bad
Exactly, drive a hydropneumatic Citroen and you'll revel in good handling; non hydractive variants can get into comedy roll angles, but the important factor is that they adhere to the road. Drive a Xantia Activa and you'll be amazed at how a car that's so compliant can corner so well.
The trouble with the 500 is that it has relatively high levels of grip, and can corner reasonably well, so it encourages you to throw it around a little more; which exposes how badly it handles the bumps.
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Yes exactly. And if the road is slippery, while turning and then slamming the brakes to have to slow down, you really get a bit scared when the weight transfers and the boat handling comes into its own! If the car wasn't so light I would have probably understeered off into big trouble = )
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I'll stop you there, as there's a concept alien to me:
Slamming the brakes whilst cornering...
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Yes when you are in a corner and then suddenly a car in front of you changes lane without indicating and you have to slam the brakes to not hit it!
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Then, as I have before, I put it to you that you drive too fast, and too close to the driver in front.
For the safety of yourself, and others, please slow down a little? You shouldn't really be in a position on public roads where you need to 'slam' the brakes at all, especially not when cornering.
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It was a dodgy corner that I go slower now but the problem was caused by the car in front changing lane on to my lane. If he had stayed in his lane I wouldn't have had a car in front of me in the first place.
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Granted, and I know what it's like to be the victim of an indecisive driver, but you should be driving with sufficient room to take account of this.
As my driving instructor once said about dual carriageway driving: "If you have to slow down, swear, swerve or stop; you're going too fast for the conditions"
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bgunn I agree with you but if you are driving on a dual carriageway, and suddenly the car infront of you without taking into account of you suddenly swerves in your lane without leaving much space you have to brake no matter how slow or fast you are driving. The only difference is the faster you go the less time you have to react to avoid an accident.
BTW I saw a Fiat 500 for rent for like 20 pounds a day from heathrow airport! It is the 1.2 though, wondering if I should rent a car over the weekend in London or just oyster card it. hmmmmmmmm.
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No, he just didn't cut people up. Not sure why you confuse conscientious driving with going slow?
Ahmett, just Oystercard it. Parking in London is a nightmare & there are cameras everywhere. It'll cost you £20 for the car & £2000 for the tickets.
im not confusing it with going slow, the only way to avoid having to brake/slow down when some one suddenly pulls into to your lane when you are overtaking them is to not overtake.
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Yeah i see what you mean. The reason i thought about it is because there are no parking restrictions on friday and monday due to bank holiday, but if the weather is ok ill just walk and oyster it!
only some parking restrictions are lifted on bank holidays, a lot still apply
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If this keeps up you guys might as well keep your winters on the whole year!
