The moderms ones are all dull as ditchwater. When I had the 944, I went to the dealer and the sight of the new ones all in a row shocked me how dull they were and I had no desire to have one.
That's fair enough, and comes down to personal opinion and preference. I have never been one for porches with the engines in the front, as it seems neither were the general public as the 924, 928 and by association 944 were supposed to replace the 911 and failed.
Oddly when there one time, by brother had given me a lift in the supra he had at the time. As we were walking back to the car one of the mechanics came over to lok at it and see the engine bay. It was his dream car (well his dream car didn't exist as he wanted the targe top and manual), commenting the modern porsches were great next to the supra. It was a bit of a surprise to us.
Sort of proves my point, a mechanic geeking out over it is not the same as sitting down in polite society and being able to say, "I drive a ?Porsche. Even a VW, BMW, mercedes, Jaguar. etc should the subject come up. Would all hold some weight in that conversation. But kings, princesses, celebrities and alike are never famed for driving a Toyota.
Princess Dianna drove a golf GTI. She didn't pick a Toyota Celica. These things do tend to add to the provenance of a car.
You must be driving them wrong, driven in anger they are more fun than the family cars. There is a far higher build quality than most, everything just felt solid inside.
Any car can be "Fun". I have had tremendous fun driving cars that others would not consider fast or powerful. You don't need a big engine to have fun. Really powerful cars can become less fun and more hard work if they are not set up right or they are just too powerful for their platform.
Nah, my daughter liked the 500, and it has many issues. I cant think of a single fiat in the past 40-45 years that I would make of point of wanting to go look for one to buy. Whereas toyotas I've have, and owned a few GT4s.
again it all comes down to personal preference.
You are falling into that internet trap of thinking because you hold one opinion on a car you are going to change everyone's mind.
I have no interest in toyota's of any kind, they are all dull as dish water (to parody your dislike for porsches) the thing is people are still lining up to buy porsches and other sports cars made by other companies. Toyota are not only no longer making sports cars (I am counting the rebadge BMW in this) but they didn't sell that many back in the day when they did make them.
Top gear dont class anything exciting unless it costs quarter of a million. Out of the 90's sporty cars they hated the calibra the most with Hammond's derogitary comments.
This is blatently not the case. There is one car that all 3 of the og hosts agreed on being a great car and that was the Mondeo ST200. They also loved the ST220. May loved the Sandaro and the Panda.
If you look at the car histories of many high profile motoring journalists, Toyotas are not a car that comes up very often. James May owned several Pandas, Clarkson has owned many Fords and Landrovers.
once they have written their reviews the car they pick to drive themselves and pay for with their own money often tells you a lot more about how good a car is or isn't.
I think we just need to stop this now. I am not going to change your mind. You will not change my mind so we might as well move on and agree to disagree you love Toyotas, and there are at least a couple of people on here (a fiat forum) who do not.... who would have thought!
