What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?

[vexorg]

It does look quite nice in yellow:

I do like the detail they go to with yellow, this (and the last one) has all the yellow stitching on the seats, arm rest, gear gator, binacle cover. Not quite a mass produced feeling.

 

[portland_bill]

It does look quite nice.....

This is why we all make different choices.
I would never have used the word nice in relation to any Juke.

 

[vexorg]

It seems to be a real marmite car, the old one any way, new one was toned down a lot.
But, I usually prefer cars that are a bit more out there than the generic boxes that seem to be around.

The new one is definitely prettier than any fiat on the current market.

 

[The Panda Nut]

County Council say its all perfectly fine. As someone who has seen the water main go 16 times (plus) since I ve lived here I dont agree. I am going to have my work cut out getting this roads width and weight limited. There is a 12 inch grid water pipe under this road as well as our 5 inch local supply main.
The verge, road, and two water pipes are already 2 feet lower than they were last year. 3 Accidents in a week now due to potholes and mud..

But of course if you believe the leader elect of the new world global warming is just fake news,

If Putin invades up our road he WILL get stuck in the mud. LOL

 

[vexorg]

Are you sure that's a real road?

 

[porta]

Are you sure that's a real road?

Our farm track looks in better condition and that’s just rubble and ‘crush n run’

 

[The Panda Nut]

Are you sure that's a real road?

No. Thank god I opted for 4x4! Round here its does now make sense.

 

[StevenRB45]

Watched a KIA EV9 review..

"It's surprisingly big inside and nicely put together"

It's over 5m long, shaped like a minibus and costs 76 grand...if it wasn't those things what the hell could it be?

Also 250-270 miles from a 98kwh battery...good job lads if you had a normal sized battery the range would be similar to a gen 1 Nissan Leaf.

State of the art...also the constant binging of driving aids during the review was amusing. I suspect it's impossible not to constantly cross white lines in it due to it's vast bulk so the owner will be slowly driven insane although it may have occured before they signed on the dotted line.

 

[vexorg]

The new hyundai ioniq 6 has a strange backend, half porsche half saab

 

[The Panda Nut]

Car image. Which has the best and worst image.

What makes and is there a best or worst.

Years ago it used to be the Volvo estates which were despised and maybe hte morris minor that was the most liked?

 

[porta]

Car image. Which has the best and worst image.

What makes and is there a best or worst.

Years ago it used to be the Volvo estates which were despised and maybe hte morris minor that was the most liked?

Nowadays cars are much of a muchness and most I could take or leave, bit like buying socks, as long as they’re not brown!
Worst is VAG, no way is their reputation worthy of anything but derision
Best is too subjective on here as Fiat has a generally unfounded bad reputation, especially for rust and electrics, all cars disintegrated in the 60’s to mid/late 80’s. As for the minor, bloody awful car, I’ve always had at least one panda but, if the new one is a euroclone, I’ll be buying older cars

 

[vexorg]

as Fiat has a generally unfounded bad reputation, especially for rust and electrics, all cars disintegrated in the 60’s to mid/late 80’s. As for the minor, bloody awful car, I’ve always had at least one panda but, if the new one is a euroclone, I’ll be buying older cars

I dont think that was unfounded, from my experience of fiats pre-90's anyway

 

[Cheest]

I dont think that was unfounded, from my experience of fiats pre-90's anyway

There was a reason that FIAT stood for Fix It Again Tony on this side of the pond. OTOH, one of my good friends had an 850 that she drove from N. Illanoy to S. Illannoy every weekend to see her boyfriend at college. She said she had a better relationship with the 850 after she married the guy then divorced him.

 

[The Panda Nut]

There was a reason that FIAT stood for Fix It Again Tony on this side of the pond. OTOH, one of my good friends had an 850 that she drove from N. Illanoy to S. Illannoy every weekend to see her boyfriend at college. She said she had a better relationship with the 850 after she married the guy then divorced him.

Remember seeing a 124 saloon on the high street 50 years back and thinking you could load carrier bags of shopping through the gaping hole in the rotting body. Thankfully no more. Fiat do fairly well in JD Power now. Im sure they did 6th in reliability a few years back. Now sit around the middle of the table

 

[porta]

I dont think that was unfounded, from my experience of fiats pre-90's anyway

I’ve worked across multiple brands and had everything from rusted out sills and three quarters on bmw to absolute cullendars of BL/Rover Ford and Vauxhall. Most Fiat electrical faults were those multiple earths or stress fractured wires in doors/A&B posts. Most of my mates drove mk2 and three escorts, astras and chavaliers and I was fixing them more than my own.
As for minis & metros, the less said the better. Yes 127s, 128s, 131s, stradas we’re bad but no more than their comparables whether from Italy, France, Germany, Japan or the UK. Even as late as the early 2000s my dads polo was looking like the mint, holey in the door bottoms and nsr sill. The sill was covered by warranty, VW rep reckoned the doors rotted from inside out which ‘wasn’t covered’. They went Korean after that, mums on her second one now and definitely screwed together better than their first, even if it is blander than a bland thing that’s been hit by the bland stick

 

[porta]

On another note…just been testing the wife’s renegade, as it’s had an anti roll bar drop link replaced, and has a ?new? knocking noise…I know we use our vehicles for the purpose they were intended, but surely the mud is supposed to be on the outside!

 

[The Panda Nut]

I’ve worked across multiple brands and had everything from rusted out sills and three quarters on bmw to absolute cullendars of BL/Rover Ford and Vauxhall. Most Fiat electrical faults were those multiple earths or stress fractured wires in doors/A&B posts. Most of my mates drove mk2 and three escorts, astras and chavaliers and I was fixing them more than my own.
As for minis & metros, the less said the better. Yes 127s, 128s, 131s, stradas we’re bad but no more than their comparables whether from Italy, France, Germany, Japan or the UK. Even as late as the early 2000s my dads polo was looking like the mint, holey in the door bottoms and nsr sill. The sill was covered by warranty, VW rep reckoned the doors rotted from inside out which ‘wasn’t covered’. They went Korean after that, mums on her second one now and definitely screwed together better than their first, even if it is blander than a bland thing that’s been hit by the bland stick

I had Renaultt 16 C. 1970. Ot was metallic green. Totally rust free. I noticed different colour seemed to rotwell or very badly.

 

[porta]

I had Renaultt 16 C. 1970. Ot was metallic green. Totally rust free. I noticed different colour seemed to rotwell or very badly.

My grandads R12 lasted 20yrs, yes it did have some welding done to it, by him, at the 15yr mark, but that thing that killed it was a broken autobox.

 

[The Panda Nut]

My grandads R12 lasted 20yrs, yes it did have some welding done to it, by him, at the 15yr mark, but that thing that killed it was a broken autobox.

Great ride and smooth engines, strong gear boxes too.. The 16 could understeer for the universe. Loved them though. 12 handled much better.

All destroyed by my right foot though.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

I always rather liked the 18 estate - I remember being surprised to see a Dacia version once before I even knew what Dacia was