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[SB1500]

Did this actually trigger a TPS light?

Find the "active" system to be generally useless so far.

Due to the wild swings in temperatures of late had all 4 tyres down 2.5psi...it was entirely unconcerned and I only found out measuring with a gauge.

The pressures for my car are listed at 33psi front 32psi rear. Looking at the autel scan tool, all of the values are set as that on the ECU. There is a ‘minimum threshold’ and mine are all set between 27-29 for some reason. So it’ll need to be down by a few PSI to trigger the light. I suppose if it was overly precise it’d be annoying. I presume this can be reprogrammed with the Toyota TechStream thing or Carista.

I ignored mine because of previous damage I did removing alloy dust caps. So I presumed it was the worst one which after a month and a half drops down and is near impossible to fill.

Because of that I bought this very niche repair kit that suspiciously seems designed for Toyota’s on all the promotional videos… actually did the rear two wheels on Saturday. Had to double check and use way more loctite and let it sit a bit longer in the cold… but a few days in, job’s a good’un. Saved me £170 per tpms sensor since Toyota doesn’t build it to separate from each stem… £55 all in. Wasn’t as scary drilling into them as I thought it might be. Did the second one on the car and all.

 

[The Panda Nut]

Did this actually trigger a TPS light?

Find the "active" system to be generally useless so far.

Due to the wild swings in temperatures of late had all 4 tyres down 2.5psi...it was entirely unconcerned and I only found out measuring with a gauge.

My findings are not dissimilar. So if the light does come on for goodness sake check immediatley as you may be on the verge of destroying a tyre. These systems are a good idea as a long shot warning, but they do not, and probably never will, take the place of proper tyre pressure checks. If you drive on a defective tyre its a potential offence as well as a possible disaster.

One of our Pandas seems to chuck out tyre warnings without much need, but has also flagged a slow puncture, but only when the tyre has very little pressure left in it. The Panda system does need regualr resetting after pressures are checked and corrected. If you don't check tyres and then reset the system its not worth having it.

 

[StevenRB45]

My findings are not dissimilar. So if the light does come on for goodness sake check immediatley as you may be on the verge of destroying a tyre. These systems are a good idea as a long shot warning, but they do not, and probably never will, take the place of proper tyre pressure checks. If you drive on a defective tyre its a potential offence as well as a possible disaster.

One of our Pandas seems to chuck out tyre warnings without much need, but has also flagged a slow puncture, but only when the tyre has very little pressure left in it. The Panda system does need regualr resetting after pressures are checked and corrected. If you don't check tyres and then reset the system its not worth having it.

This system apparently only needs reset if you move wheels round. The instructions are set pressures correctly, hold a button in the glove box until tps light flashes 3 times and now it's registered the correct pressure. To be fair I don't even need to press that button if I switch wheel position as the Estate seems to be balanced given it's 33psi all round. I wonder whether the button sets the minimum value though or it sets what they are at minus 5psi.

From that point on just let it do it's thing, but it appears the thing is basically "put a light on if there's a catastrophic puncture" which a passive system can manage successfully.

If SBs margins are correct you could have a slow for weeks and it wouldn't give a monkeys.

 

[SB1500]

This system apparently only needs reset if you move wheels round. The instructions are set pressures correctly, hold a button in the glove box until tps light flashes 3 times and now it's registered the correct pressure. To be fair I don't even need to press that button if I switch wheel position as the Estate seems to be balanced given it's 33psi all round. I wonder whether the button sets the minimum value though or it sets what they are at minus 5psi.

From that point on just let it do it's thing, but it appears the thing is basically "put a light on if there's a catastrophic puncture" which a passive system can manage successfully.

If SBs margins are correct you could have a slow for weeks and it wouldn't give a monkeys.

What I said does sound a bit mad and off.. so I took a look back at the values. Last year I sat and went through every ‘normal value’ when the car had no issues or faults so that when it did.. I could compare.

That’s where I seen that. And sure enough… 27psi.

I would have thought the defence for this level of complexity and expense would maybe be precision over knowing exactly when you drop a psi or two… but apparently not. As you say, big differences only.

Also… for any of you here with other Toyota / Mazda / Lexus / Japanese cars using this same TPMS set up - you can get genuine sensors online (a Lexus dealer sells for £78 per unit) so you know you’re getting the real deal. There is an app called “Carista” (little plug in module to your phone plus an app, with a subscription on it). They confirmed to me their app CAN programme sensors in. So if you find yourself in the predicament - order the sensor. Plug in to find (or using Carista app) your existing TPMS sensor ID and then use the Carista app to programme your new one. Beats the £170 per wheel price from a dealer here (no doubt more in England with regional pricing).

I was going to get two of mine done two at a time at the Lexus dealer but I was disappointed they tried to tell me they’d still charge £340 despite the fact I highly doubt doing the extra wheel really adds anymore time or labour… so I did my repair instead. But if that kit didn’t exist, I’d have been doing what I said above. Not interested in the cheap aftermarket sensors though they are an option, my local try place STILL wanted £130 per wheel… hardly worth the saving at that cost for something that’ll possibly give more trouble. In fairness... the dealer told me they could give me that 10 year /100k warranty with just an oil change... when it came to booking in then they decided a full minor service at minimum... time wasters.

 

[StevenRB45]

It does beg the question if you reset the system with the tyres 5psi over inflated and then set them to the correct level without resetting the system...would the 27 psi become 32 psi?

 

[SB1500]

It does beg the question if you reset the system with the tyres 5psi over inflated and then set them to the correct level without resetting the system...would the 27 psi become 32 psi?

That's a good question... possibly this is set by the TPMS button... which I definitely mis-used before understanding that it's essentially never meant to be used since if set correctly... lights will go off when the correct pressure is restored.

I'm going to reset it shortly... and see if it makes a difference. Although I'm not near the diagnostic tool.

It will be interesting to see what it deems as low enough to trigger the light... surely not too small so that cold / hot weather impacts it.

 

[SB1500]

Charlie Kirk shot dead... wish I hadn't been sent the clip to be fair. Horrible.

What's happening to the West... voicing your (rather vanilla Christian) opinions these days is enough to make you a target... And then the actual extremists are protected at all costs. Insane.

 

[The Panda Nut]

Charlie Kirk shot dead... wish I hadn't been sent the clip to be fair. Horrible.

What's happening to the West... voicing your (rather vanilla Christian) opinions these days is enough to make you a target... And then the actual extremists are protected at all costs. Insane.

Unfortunately the CIA do too good a job with the worst extremist....

 

[PuntoHowTo]

Unfortunately the CIA do too good a job with the worst extremist....

I wonder if he/his family have the same views on gun control this morning?

 

[StevenRB45]

I wonder if he/his family have the same views on gun control this morning?

You know the logic of the American Christian right will cause a spike in gun sales as a result of this?

Happens every time there's a major gun related outrage.

Because despite a near flawless record of never getting his man the "good guy with a gun" needs to make sure he buys his gun before they get banned.

In fact right on cue..

Gun Stocks Spiked After Charlie Kirk's Assassination: Here's Why

Shares of Smith & Wesson Brands, a Tennessee-based manufacturer, closed up nearly 7% on Wednesday afternoon, hours after Kirk was shot and killed at a Utah college campus.

www.forbes.com

 

[PuntoHowTo]

You know the logic of the American Christian right will cause a spike in gun sales as a result of this?

Happens every time there's a major gun related outrage.

Because despite a near flawless record of never getting his man the "good guy with a gun" needs to make sure he buys his gun before they get banned.

In fact right on cue..

Gun Stocks Spiked After Charlie Kirk's Assassination: Here's Why

Shares of Smith & Wesson Brands, a Tennessee-based manufacturer, closed up nearly 7% on Wednesday afternoon, hours after Kirk was shot and killed at a Utah college campus.

www.forbes.com

Don’t tell the gun lobbies there will be a lot more people getting assassinated if they work out they can drive sales through strategically murdering the odd politician or political figure.

The main issue is far too many Americans have grown up spoon fed Hollywood plot lines, and “happy endings”

 

[StevenRB45]

Don’t tell the gun lobbies there will be a lot more people getting assassinated if they work out they can drive sales through strategically murdering the odd politician or political figure.

The main issue is far too many Americans have grown up spoon fed Hollywood plot lines, and “happy endings”

If one was a conspiracy theorist you could say "big gun" has an interest in prolonging this situation...it plays right into the hands of "big pharma" as well.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

If one was a conspiracy theorist you could say "big gun" has an interest in prolonging this situation...it plays right into the hands of "big pharma" as well.

Well obviously if one was so inclined to believe such things. But I can’t believe that a group whose livelihood depends on gun sales, would want to proliferate the panic around gun violence.

 

[StevenRB45]

Can't imagine such peaceful and god fearing people would do such a thing.

Although weirdly they don't seem recognise Matthew 26:52 even when it's happening to them despite their extensive bible studies.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

Can't imagine such peaceful and god fearing people would do such a thing.

Although weirdly they don't seem recognise Matthew 26:52 even when it's happening to them despite their extensive bible studies.

Quite.

Most “live” by what they believe the bible says, few have ever actually read it.

 

[SB1500]

Think it’s safe to say even if every person in that crowd was carrying a gun… it wouldn’t have stopped a sniper from 200 yards from making the shot…

I’d also wager that all of those communities / folks still hold the same beliefs. CK himself said “a few deaths a year are worth the second amendment” (in HIS opinion). There is a bit of a sick irony to the fact that now he’s one of them. But I highly doubt his circles, even his family, will now suddenly be advocating against guns. Not a chance.

 

[The Panda Nut]

I wonder if he/his family have the same views on gun control this morning?

Sadly hes too dumb to consider gun controls at all. Even if he did I doubt a lot would comply. What a bad society it is that thinks carrying guns is a reasonable or necessary thing. I know its a different land, but when will they get this I wonder.

 

[porta]

I’m guessing you’re all discussing Kirk…kinda ironic that the 2nd amendment defender no longer lives by the sword etc etc

 

[SB1500]

At least in the UK, we only get locked up for expressing our opinions, not sniped in the neck… but hey, that’ll teach us to shut up and comply in both countries - right? - but only if you’re white, working class etc, in other words, a non protected group.

Sounds extreme but… there’s a lot of objective evidence supporting it as of late. Once extreme views to hold are now… reality by many measures.