What's made you grumpy today?

[portland_bill]

Mower contains a bronze bush, not simple bearings. Shaft worn. New bush, reamed to suit? Not going there.

Now, do I just keep using it until it breaks, or replace it now? I shall dwell on that for too long, and make the wrong decision later.

 

[porta]

Mower contains a bronze bush, not simple bearings. Shaft worn. New bush, reamed to suit? Not going there.

Now, do I just keep using it until it breaks, or replace it now? I shall dwell on that for too long, and make the wrong decision later.

Will a bearing fit, if so there’s always one off the shelf somewhere

 

[portland_bill]

Will a bearing fit, if so there’s always one off the shelf somewhere

A bronze bush, in a pressed steel plate. No room for anything larger diameter.

 

[Cheest]

What made me grumpy this morning is a rambunctious dog planted both of his big feet on my left ankle as I was getting my boots on to take him on his morning walk. I had several choice words, the bulk of which were of the four letter variety. It's a throbbing right now.

At least I'll be off of it for about six hours after today's PT. 330 mile drive to my Dad's place in N. WIsconsin.

 

[The Panda Nut]

What made me grumpy this morning is a rambunctious dog planted both of his big feet on my left ankle as I was getting my boots on to take him on his morning walk. I had several choice words, the bulk of which were of the four letter variety. It's a throbbing right now.

At least I'll be off of it for about six hours after today's PT. 330 mile drive to my Dad's place in N. WIsconsin.

Buster was just testing to make sure you aint been fibbing about that foot! He loves you really.

 

[The Panda Nut]

Huh account progress indeed. All my Fiats have had Forum stickers inem! May be, may be, I shall do Pablo nut, may be not! Noop and Ruby wear three stickers each.

 

[StevenRB45]

Tinker with all your visitors phones,
(Kids.. And their kids..) see what looks kind of Logical/intuitive

AND see which network they are on.. And it's SignalStrength

My 1st smartphone could only get signal at the back of the house.. Bloody useless.. Down to the Network !

Dredging this back up as something came up messing with my wife's new phone.

Noticed her phone had "network name" WiFi calling in the top corner.

I'd apparently entirely missed this being a thing...as long as your network supports it if you've got no cellular signal you can call via WiFi.

So as long as your phone and network can do it and you have WiFi (though given we're on an internet forum there's pretty damn good chance everyone has unless you're accessing it in the library) your phone has signal.

Of course my phone has it too but it was turned off *sad trombone* so I've been going upstairs for a better signal for 2 years for no reason .

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Dredging this back up as something came up messing with my wife's new phone.

Noticed her phone had "network name" WiFi calling in the top corner.

I'd apparently entirely this being a thing...as long as your network supports it if you've got no cellular signal you can call via WiFi.

So as long as your phone and network can do it and you have WiFi (though given we're on an internet forum there's pretty damn good chance everyone has unless you're accessing it in the library) your phone has signal.

Of course my phone has it too but it was turned off *sad trombone* so I've been going upstairs for a better signal for 2 years for no reason .

Do you think my old "dumb" phone can do this? I can't make it.

 

[StevenRB45]

I'd be very surprised if it had WiFi nevermind WiFi calling...

Although T mobile was the first network to introduce it back in 2007...so Google informs me.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

I'd be very surprised if it had WiFi nevermind WiFi calling...

Although T mobile was the first network to introduce it back in 2007...so Google informs me.

I’m pretty sure I had it on my last phone and I last upgraded in 2019 so yeah you’ve definitely let that one slip you by

It’s possibly because android phones have stupidly complicated menus

 

[StevenRB45]

I’m pretty sure I had it on my last phone and I last upgraded in 2019 so yeah you’ve definitely let that one slip you by

It’s possibly because android phones have stupidly complicated menus

Google informs me I've had phones that did it as far back as 2015.

However looking at it my network only started supporting it 2023.

The stupidly complicated menu involved typing WiFi calling into a box.. clicking "on" I can see how that would be baffling. I was just not aware it was available never having looked for it.

 

[porta]

I think Wi-Fi embedded capable phones arrived shorthand after laptops and notepads were catered for, I think Finland, believe it or not, was the first to introduce a hybrid Wi-Fi/internet network followed by Japan (of course), so we’re talking about 2005 onwards…no idea wehn it came to the UK

EDIT: just looked it up, hybrid system was called Mi-Fi for personal computers etc. True Wi-Fi later developed not long after and, again, Finland and Japan were the leaders in adopting…

 

[PuntoHowTo]

Google informs me I've had phones that did it as far back as 2015.

However looking at it my network only started supporting it 2023.

The stupidly complicated menu involved typing WiFi calling into a box.. clicking "on" I can see how that would be baffling. I was just not aware it was available never having looked for it.

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The last phone I had was an iPhone 6s that I got new in 2015 so yeah I’ve had phones that did it since 2015 as well though I think the software of the iPhone didn’t introduce it till some time later?

My work android phone supports it but like you the network didn’t so completely useless.

Going back I think my first phone that supported any type of internet was my old (very old now) Nokia 7110 that like many phones of that late 90s era supported WAP I built a few websites that could be accessed over WAP when I was young but the phones were so slow and clunky that it made them very annoying to use.

I had a pocket PC in around 2000/2001 that had a pcmcia slot which I seem to think you could get a wifi card that would just slot in, and in around 2003 they started bringing out pocket pc phones which with a pcmcia wifi card could access full internet on a phone.

The early Symbian phones like the Sony Ericsson P900/P910 could access the full internet from about 2003/2004 the Nokia 9500 which I think was about 2004 had full internet and full wifi built in, but that was basically a tiny laptop.

I had a lot of the “smart phones” that existed before anyone coined the name smart phone, in the days you would upgrade your phone every year because that’s as long as any phone would last

 

[StevenRB45]

Same think my first internet Phone was a Sagem My X-6..being a little younger

To be fair WiFi calling is pretty useless unless the person contacting you isn't a smart phone user.

So for work if no network but on WiFi I'd use teams, for home WhatsApp or Facebook messenger depending who it was given I've got them all and they all offer voice and video calling.

Very much not really a problem unless someone's actually going to ring you on your number which well other than my dad..who does that? In fact even my dad doesn't given his default is the landline.

But thought it was a useful thing to be aware of in the context of "make sure you get reception at home".

Most of the big name networks seem to support it mine (Tesco cos I'm tight) didn't in 2022 when I got this phone but now do. Also seems others like Giff Gaff and other budget carriers don't do it at all. So perhaps avoid if important and picking a new phone..

 

[PuntoHowTo]

Same think my internet Phone was a Sagem My X-6..being a little younger

I'm not that much older than you

My first mobile phone was when I was 16, I bought it myself and it was so bad you could not go into the phone book and pick who you wanted to phone, you had to remember the phone number from the phone book then manually dial it to make a call !!!

But on the plus side if the battery died you could put in some AA batteries for about 30 seconds of call time.

 

[The Panda Nut]

Dredging this back up as something came up messing with my wife's new phone.

Noticed her phone had "network name" WiFi calling in the top corner.

I'd apparently entirely missed this being a thing...as long as your network supports it if you've got no cellular signal you can call via WiFi.

So as long as your phone and network can do it and you have WiFi (though given we're on an internet forum there's pretty damn good chance everyone has unless you're accessing it in the library) your phone has signal.

Of course my phone has it too but it was turned off *sad trombone* so I've been going upstairs for a better signal for 2 years for no reason .

Join the club.

 

[StevenRB45]

I'm not that much older than you

My first mobile phone was when I was 16, I bought it myself and it was so bad you could not go into the phone book and pick who you wanted to phone, you had to remember the phone number from the phone book then manually dial it to make a call !!!

But on the plus side if the battery died you could put in some AA batteries for about 30 seconds of call time.

Alreet grandad

My first one I was 13 and it had a phone book and could hold 9 text messages before you had to delete one to make space.

 

[bugsymike]

Alreet grandad

My first one I was 13 and it had a phone book and could hold 9 text messages before you had to delete one to make space.

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Speaking as a 70 year old grandad (7 times over), I only ever use a landline. Even when I had my business. This meant I could walk away from all the hassles of Monday to Friday 9-5. People used to say "What about if my car breaks down?" To which I replied " If you have your car regularly serviced by me, it won't!".
I know I am an old f*rt, but I didn't grow up in a society ruled by 24 hour a day contact. The phone is a tool, It shouldn't rule your life, for too many people today it is a way of a boss contacting you out of work hours, telling when they want you to work. One of my daughters used to regularly get calls in the middle of the night saying the burglar alarm had gone off and have to travel into work and stand outside waiting for the Police to turn up as too dangerous to go in on her own, only to find it was a system fault, then go home get a couple of hours sleep before work as normal, all that on a assistant managers salary, not much more than minimum wage.
I have only ever had two mobile phones, both given to me by my daughters worried if I was traveling away some time, they never got used and the "pay as you go credit " was eaten by the phone companies.
I am not a total technophobe, I was building PCs for myself and others even before Pentium's came out.
The phone and broadband companies have created an addiction that bring them in billions, with no care about the affects on peoples lives.
Regarding the addiction side of my point, if an alcoholic gave up drink for a year we would be impressed. How many mobile phone users could stop for seven days even?
Does this comply with "What's made you grumpy today?"

 

[vexorg]

My first one I was 13 and it had a phone book and could hold 9 text messages before you had to delete one to make space.

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I was 30 when that was my first phone, still got it in a box somewhere, the box of old phones and chargers.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Speaking as a 70 year old grandad (7 times over), I only ever use a landline. Even when I had my business. This meant I could walk away from all the hassles of Monday to Friday 9-5. People used to say "What about if my car breaks down?" To which I replied " If you have your car regularly serviced by me, it won't!".
I know I am an old f*rt, but I didn't grow up in a society ruled by 24 hour a day contact. The phone is a tool, It shouldn't rule your life, for too many people today it is a way of a boss contacting you out of work hours, telling when they want you to work. One of my daughters used to regularly get calls in the middle of the night saying the burglar alarm had gone off and have to travel into work and stand outside waiting for the Police to turn up as too dangerous to go in on her own, only to find it was a system fault, then go home get a couple of hours sleep before work as normal, all that on a assistant managers salary, not much more than minimum wage.
I have only ever had two mobile phones, both given to me by my daughters worried if I was traveling away some time, they never got used and the "pay as you go credit " was eaten by the phone companies.
I am not a total technophobe, I was building PCs for myself and others even before Pentium's came out.
The phone and broadband companies have created an addiction that bring them in billions, with no care about the affects on peoples lives.
Regarding the addiction side of my point, if an alcoholic gave up drink for a year we would be impressed. How many mobile phone users could stop for seven days even?
Does this comply with "What's made you grumpy today?"

We both have "dumb" mobile phones and rely heavily on our landline. The only people who know my mobile number are my kids and a couple of friends. The mobile was acquired mainly to satisfy Mrs J and the kids so they felt they can contact me when I'm out and about. I do remember to put the phone in my pocket before leaving the house but sometimes forget to turn it on! A few weeks ago Sky installed full fibre broadband for us as part of the deal I struck to stay with them when renewing my contract (gave up the TV many years ago though due to what we perceived as poor cost v value) The Sky man explained that as they were removing the copper cable connection (in fact they didn't, it's still there but now disconnected) if I wanted to retain a landline then it would have to work through the new router and if the broadband goes down for any reason then we loose the landline! They only agreed to go ahead with it because we have the mobiles for emergencies. I've recently learned that the copper is to all be removed in our area anyway and everyone will be going to fibre, so are they going to give all the other "oldies" in the area a free mobile phone I wonder? Oh, and the copper wired extension to the bedroom phone stopped working too so we ended up buying a new phone altogether which had a wireless extension for the bedroom, another £50! They told us the "speed" would be "superfast" compared to what we had before but we never had any problems with the copper and notice no difference with the fibre ie. we've never had problems with TV catchup/on demand etc buffering and my laptop and Mrs J's ipad have always worked fine. I suppose having the full fibre means we're probably now future proofed for the rest of the time left to us and it's cost us nothing for the upgrade - did have to buy the new phone though.

I think there's no doubt that a modern mobile phone (what a poor descriptor the word "Phone" is to describe a modern mobile) has many advantages which would be useful. We could download the supermarket discount functions. My spelling is atrocious and the mobile would sort that for me. I'd never get lost again with the map function and I wouldn't worry whether I could pay to park. You'll all know so much more about the advantages than me. However I wonder what else people find so interesting on them. If I go to the dentist or doctor (assuming I can actually get an appointment) everyone is on their phones. On the bus, noone speaks to one another anymore and simply walking down the street is hazardous with all the people who aren't looking where they're going or watching out for traffic because they're heads down on their mobiles, I could go on. Whilst acknowledging the benefits I think they are an addictive and potentially dangerous blight on humanity, and, thinking about what a landline costs to finance, an expensive one at that! Having said all that though we've decided to buy just one modern phone and share it between us. Mrs J doesn't do laptops etc and has an ipad so it will almost certainly be an iphone. I don't do apple stuff, so gawd knows if I'll ever be able to work it!