Don't take this the wrong way Tashy, I am simply asking, but apart from the fact that we are all a lovely bunch of people and I apparently live to argue, why are you a member of a FiatForum? If you want to ask me the same question it's because I owned a Fiat and needed help with it, when it was fixed after a little while I eventually strayed in LL and enjoyed chatting. I am still here now because I don't have much of a life and there's some interesting people here

Oh but I don't have a Fiat anymore
I would ask the same of Kirsty but I fear I would face her wrath :S