priceless. I've actually driven a 911, & I can categorically say there's nothing girly about them. Try it some time...
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priceless. I've actually driven a 911, & I can categorically say there's nothing girly about them. Try it some time...
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Are you taking the pi55 !!!!
Now guys, not everybody is going to share the same view as you.
I don't get annoyed at people who don't share my love for the humble Panda now do I? ;-)
And you're telling me and puntofan01 to be mature
This thread is cancer.
Now guys, not everybody is going to share the same view as you.
I don't get annoyed at people who don't share my love for the humble Panda now do I? ;-)
And you're telling me and puntofan01 to be mature
I'm not annoyed mate, it made me smile all morning, thanks
Now guys, not everybody is going to share the same view as you.
I don't get annoyed at people who don't share my love for the humble Panda now do I? ;-)
And you're telling me and puntofan01 to be mature
Priceless..
Like others on here I consider myself a true petrol head having owned/worked on/driven quite a number of various cars some looked upon as classics & sports cars. Far from being annoyed I'm amused at some of your thoughts regarding other marks I get it that you are quite happy in your wee Panda bubble, but I would never regard you as a petrol head equipped with knowledge about other cars & vehicles that you have never driven or even seen up close. Of course you are quite right about having different views, but then again you certainly did not accept that some of your unsubstantiated views when others tried to offer proven information. I'm certainly not telling anybody to be mature, but I would like to see a holistic view of things when you come out of your wee Panda bubble & give your opinion on other vehicles.....
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Girly? Depends if said girl has a chest-wig.
You're thinking of the Boxster, surely?
Sorry guys, I just think Porches are girly. If I was loaded I’d probably buy something different.
Haven’t driven one, but then again I haven’t driven a bright yellow VW Beetle.. but I’m sure I don’t want one
Glad I made you smile though. From inside my Panda bubble ;-)
Haven’t driven one, but then again I haven’t driven a bright yellow VW Beetle.. but I’m sure I don’t want one
Glad I made you smile though. From inside my Panda bubble ;-)
The last car I drove through work was a 15 plate 1.3 Diesel Corsa - lucky you!! Baggy old thing the Corsa is....
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I must admit, unless you do a lot of track days, I think having a fast car is a waste really. There's fast cars I like, but purely for their style, if that makes sense?
I have to disagree with that one - purely from a safety aspect.
This day in age roads are busy traffic fast flowing. A slowly accelerating car is not only a hinderance it’s downright dangerous on an A road or motorway.
I remember picking up a Grande Punto 1.4 courtesy car after dropping in my 1.9. I had joined a dual carriageway going up hill, and moved over to overtake the car on the inside. I had the fright of my life in that car, it accelerated so slowly then I had a car come barrelling up the back of me flashing its lights.
It felt dangerous. The transit is like this albeit it has 78bhp it’s nippy enough up to 40 and can hold its own with modern traffic, however 60mph is its comfortable cruising speed.
Problem is for yourself is that you have only ever driven lower powered cars, so you may not see the relevance of what I’m saying.
I started off with a 59bhp car, then a 128bhp, than 118bhp, then to 161bhp now I have 180bhp and it’s completely effortless and safe at accelerating out of danger.
It’s not me you have to convince, it’s yourself.
Are you taking the pi55 !!!!
Love your 997, the early 996 models where a bit girly looking especially after the last of the air cooled 993s but the 997 was proper Porsche again. I’m in love with the new 991 Targa, that one definitely on my shopping list if I win the lottery, along with a Ferrari California and maybe a couple of other similar cars.
No but I bet if someone said, “do you wanna have a drive in my Porsche”, you’d not say no?
Remember the champion of the Panda James May himself also had a classic Porsche, a Rolls Royce and a new Ferrari.
James may would never turn down the chance to try any car.
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You tell yourself that.
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I understand that a 130bhp plus car will accelerate a lot faster than a 77bhp 1, but I think driving style has a lot to do with it. My parents went from an Escort 1.6 to their Punto 1.2 8v, and my dad didn't say he felt vulnerable driving it, and the 3 of us went all the way to Cornwall in it several times, complete with roofbox!
Doesn’t even make sense, maybe try again.
Seriously though you’re turning into a 5 year old, that said my 5 year old nephew has more experiance of different cars than your good self
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Not being funny, but you're not able to accept that I'm happy with what you consider to be a worthless pile of junk. Not all of us are bothered about having a big expensive car; some of us are content with a small car. Contrary to what you may think, I don't drive an old Grande Punto because it's all I can afford, I drive it because I like it.
I completely disagree with this. A 'slow' car is not dangerous on the grounds that it is 'slow' compared to most other vehicles (e.g. my Panda - far from fast). It's only dangerous when an idiot drives it, idiotically into dangerous situations in the first place. You don't have to overtake..
I drove 140 miles today in the Panda. The only vehicles I overtake are lorries doing 56mph on climbing lanes, and even then it wouldn't be the end of the world if I couldn't. But it's perfectly safe doing so. More effort? Yeah, you've got to go down a few gears. But even me, a 21 year old, with relatively no experience to some of you guys at driving can do it safely.
IF, I was trying to over take every other car to be at the front of the queue like some people do in my Panda, I'd fail to keep up because it's simply too slow to compete with 90% the cars around it. No doubt about it. Maybe that would result in dangerous situations, but would it be because the car is slow? No, it would be because I'd be acting an idiot, trying to overtake people for no good reason.
I wouldn't drive one, honestly. I love my car, even fixing it and driving it for the first few hours of a journey before I start thinking about how if I took the bus I'd have had X hours reclaimed to study / read / relax lol The car is great but I don't think I'm as into 'driving' in a big way. Tbh if I could replace my car with a bicycle or a scooter realistically I would!!! So perhaps this is why I don't share the same lust for Porsche as most of you. I'm well aware I'm in a minority and it's an unpopular opinion but it's genuine.
James May is a legend though! How I miss the proper Top Gear though
The point I’m making is not that you have a ‘fast’ car I’m talking about time exposed to danger.
That time when you have to move past a slower moving vehicle say on a single lane and it appears clear and something happens that’s not planned for and you need that burst of speed to accelerate to safety. I have driven a panda 1.2 and a Fiat 500 1.2 and they were fine, no ball of fire but they are lighter cars than a super mini, I’ve also driven the Panda 1.3 Diesel that could rely on its torque to accelerate quicker, I’ve also driven the Panda 100hp and that was quick enough to accelerate.
I’m talking about heavier super mini and above cars that are heavier with underpowered NA engines and of cars I’ve driven extensively a few spring to mind...
Peugeot 1.4 8v 75bhp
Grande Punto 1.2 and 1.4
Fiesta 1.25 59bhp and 74bhp
Fiesta 1.3 59bhp
Corsa 1.4 90bhp
To name a few.
This is a case in point. Joining the M42 when it’s busy and smart motorway makes the hard shoulder a live lane, at this one you have very short space to join the motorway to merge into traffic coming up behind you, or having to brake to a near stand still to join causing danger
That time when you have to move past a slower moving vehicle say on a single lane and it appears clear and something happens that’s not planned for and you need that burst of speed to accelerate to safety. I have driven a panda 1.2 and a Fiat 500 1.2 and they were fine, no ball of fire but they are lighter cars than a super mini, I’ve also driven the Panda 1.3 Diesel that could rely on its torque to accelerate quicker, I’ve also driven the Panda 100hp and that was quick enough to accelerate.
I’m talking about heavier super mini and above cars that are heavier with underpowered NA engines and of cars I’ve driven extensively a few spring to mind...
Peugeot 1.4 8v 75bhp
Grande Punto 1.2 and 1.4
Fiesta 1.25 59bhp and 74bhp
Fiesta 1.3 59bhp
Corsa 1.4 90bhp
To name a few.
This is a case in point. Joining the M42 when it’s busy and smart motorway makes the hard shoulder a live lane, at this one you have very short space to join the motorway to merge into traffic coming up behind you, or having to brake to a near stand still to join causing danger
I'm sorry, but if you can't manage to join a motorway or overtake a slower vehicle without difficulty, it's not the car's lack of power that is the problem.
It's all about timing and paying attention to what the other road users are doing, and knowing the performance of your own vehicle.
Yes a more powerful car can complete an overtake faster, that doesn't make it safer. It does potentially give you more opportunities to overtake, but safety is still reliant on you reading the road and judging the space available, just as it is in a slower car.
A few years ago, I was driving a 50 bhp VW Transporter, I didn't feel scared, nor did I impede other road users when joining roads, I even overtook a few things.
It's not the power that's important, it's how you make use of it.
It's all about timing and paying attention to what the other road users are doing, and knowing the performance of your own vehicle.
Yes a more powerful car can complete an overtake faster, that doesn't make it safer. It does potentially give you more opportunities to overtake, but safety is still reliant on you reading the road and judging the space available, just as it is in a slower car.
A few years ago, I was driving a 50 bhp VW Transporter, I didn't feel scared, nor did I impede other road users when joining roads, I even overtook a few things.
It's not the power that's important, it's how you make use of it.
