Technical Tracking?

[mangopunto]

I was checking for oil leaks underneath the car yesterday and noticed the very inner wall of the tires is wearing rather quickly.

Will these tyres require replacing, or is this normal?

 

[rpm711]

Hi,

It's not normal and the tyre may need replacing soon.

Is the car pulling to one side?

Could be the tracking/wheel alignment that is required as the camber could be out.

After a drive have a feel of the tyres, one side should be hotter than the rest of the tyre.

Hope this helps!

 

[Karletto]

Left half also doesn't look OK to me... maybe it's time to change them.
How old are front tyres? Has right tyre same wear?

 

[varesecrazy]

I was checking for oil leaks underneath the car yesterday and noticed the very inner wall of the tires is wearing rather quickly.

Will these tyres require replacing, or is this normal?

National tyres - among others will check the tracking for free -
also check your tyre pressures - low pressures wear the edges of the tyre,
LOTS of high speed roundabouts can also produce strange wear patterns,
Charlie

 

[rpm711]

If wheel alignment is fine then Low pressure tyre will result in wear on both edges of the tyre, Over inflated tyres will generally result in wear in the centre of the tyre!

 

[mangopunto]

The wear looks identical on both front tyres, the rest of the tyre has lots of decent tread left.

There is a speedy roundabout on the way home each day I can comfortably take in 3rd.

I just assumed anyone who'd check your tracking for free is more than likely to 'find' a problem..

 

[rpm711]

They should find the problem! They may try to sell you more being a free test (like Kwik Fit do).

You have to have good tyres for the tracking to be checked, ideally the same make all round!

Have you hit any pot holes or kerbs? If tracking is ok then it might be ball joints/track rod ends etc

 

[mangopunto]

They should find the problem! They may try to sell you more being a free test (like Kwik Fit do).

You have to have good tyres for the tracking to be checked, ideally the same make all round!

Have you hit any pot holes or kerbs? If tracking is ok then it might be ball joints/track rod ends etc

I've just driven home (14 miles) the worn part was barely warm, but the rest of the tyre wasn't hot at all.
I jacked the car up and gave the wheel a good tug and there didn't really seem to be any play.

The car doesn't noticeably pull in any direction it seems like the front wheels may both be just off vertical with both facing slightly outward at the base?

 

[s and b]

whilst i would agree the tracking or suspension might have a problem it also has to be noted that many tyres you buy these days specifically chinese ones and round that area (far east) do seem to wear weird once they start getting down to the bar
i would suggest 2 new tyres and a tracking check
unfortunately wisdom today is put new rubber on the back though
your choice

 

[Ziggy122]

Is it me or is the wear looking somewhat quiet smooth?
Which would indicate that its not a tracking issue and more of a camber issue

However - soon as any part of the tyre hits the legal markers, its time to get them changed!

Tracking should be done after checking the condition of the track rod ends
No point having it tracked, if the TRE is worn out = Tracking will be out again

Ziggy

 

[mangopunto]

I've attached two more photos if it helps at all?

I'll have to replace them asap as I don't fancy 6 points, and I'm guessing any insurance is currently invalid? :idea:

I just don't want to spend £100 (??) for them to go within 5k miles.

I'm not sure how many miles these tyres have done as I got the car at auction 5k miles ago but they looked ok then, and annoyingly there's loads of tread left on the rest of the tyres!

 

[rpm711]

I've just driven home (14 miles) the worn part was barely warm, but the rest of the tyre wasn't hot at all.
I jacked the car up and gave the wheel a good tug and there didn't really seem to be any play.

The car doesn't noticeably pull in any direction it seems like the front wheels may both be just off vertical with both facing slightly outward at the base?

The part that is warmer than the rest of the tyre is where the tyre is in more contact with the road.

Tugging the wheel wouldn't really show any play.

Jack it up so the weight is off the wheel, with steering locked, use axle stands or blocks for security.

On the wheel place your hands at quarter to three position (r left hand 9o'clock & right hand at 3o'clock) and give a wiggle left to right, you may want to slightly move the positions of your hands.

If you feel some play then it's your track rod ends, if you take the wheel off and do the same as above and look where the track rod end is.
You'll see the play from the steering knuckle on the hub move where the bolt of the track rod goes through, the bottom of the track rod will be not move.

 

[rpm711]

If funds are tight, you can look for part worn tyre for maybe a £10-£20 each for average size tyres, inspect them for any cracks, uneven wear etc...making sure they are of the same brand... then get the car checked out!

If it's a free check like what 'varesecrazy' suggested then it's worth a try as you are not obliged to get the work done, at least you'll know what the problems is.

Report back once you had it checked!

 

[s and b]

If funds are tight, you can look for part worn tyre for maybe a £10-£20 each for average size tyres, inspect them for any cracks, uneven wear etc...making sure they are of the same brand... then get the car checked out!

If it's a free check like what 'varesecrazy' suggested then it's worth a try as you are not obliged to get the work done, at least you'll know what the problems is.

Report back once you had it checked!

too many cowboys doing part worns
remember unless you can look in the carcass before they are fitted they might have no end of illegal patches glued inside

cheap new might not be the best if doing lots of motorway miles but certainly suitable for shopping trollie puntos

 

[rpm711]

too many cowboys doing part worns
remember unless you can look in the carcass before they are fitted they might have no end of illegal patches glued inside

cheap new might not be the best if doing lots of motorway miles but certainly suitable for shopping trollie puntos

I suppose if you can afford them, but inspection is a must!

 

[alisonmcneilly]

My doblo tyres looked exactly like that before I got new wishbones and track rod ends. The new tyres are now wearing perfectly!

 

[mangopunto]

My doblo tyres looked exactly like that before I got new wishbones and track rod ends. The new tyres are now wearing perfectly!

How much was that to have done?

I'll do the 'clock test' when I'm home later, and have a look for a free tracking test.

 

[alisonmcneilly]

on the doblo £250 including labour but money well spent. If you can do it yourself it would be a lot cheaper.

 

[mangopunto]

Just tried the "clock test' and there was no play at all.

In hoping it's just a tracking issue then?

would I expect to pay 120 for two fitted tyres and tracking?

 

[atom0007]

Really depends on tyre choice.....bargain tyres plus tracking could be 80 or 90