Tottenham Riots

[pooroldcodger]

I think this is going to develop in to a mini civil war between the gangs who don't want to do anything in life other than listen to (c)rap music and earn respect (even though they can't spell it) and shoot and knife each other, and the gangs who will duck and dive, cheat, open shops, work, trade, fight like ferrets in a sack to make some money, in some cases legally and in some cases not.
Stuck in the middle somewhere will be the law-abiding folk who yet again will pick up the bill.
This is my plan:
Curfew in London tonight ater 11pm.
Police deploy snatch squads and helicopters .
Bring in miltary hardware (helicopters especially) if we have any spare.
Then, nab as many as possible and take them well outside London and ring fence them.
All identified as involved immediately have their benefits stopped, or if they are under age they are kept in a separate camp for under-aged until their parent or guardian claims them. When they do, the guardian is charged as well for aiding and abetting. If they are found to be illegals, then they go in a separate camp for deportation.
If we don't act now this will get out of hand, and only stop when every scrote in the land has a nicked flat screen tele and more trainers and mobiles than they have hands and feet.
That's just for starters.

 

[AgnessGP]

i think this is going to develop in to a mini civil war between the gangs who don't want to do anything in life other than listen to (c)rap music and earn respect (even though they can't spell it) and shoot and knife each other, and the gangs who will duck and dive, cheat, open shops, work, trade, fight like ferrets in a sack to make some money, in some cases legally and in some cases not.
Stuck in the middle somewhere will be the law-abiding folk who yet again will pick up the bill.
This is my plan:
Curfew in london tonight ater 11pm.
Police deploy snatch squads and helicopters .
Bring in miltary hardware (helicopters especially) if we have any spare.
Then, nab as many as possible and take them well outside london and ring fence them.
All identified as involved immediately have their benefits stopped, or if they are under age they are kept in a separate camp for under-aged until their parent or guardian claims them. When they do, the guardian is charged as well for aiding and abetting. If they are found to be illegals, then they go in a separate camp for deportation.
If we don't act now this will get out of hand, and only stop when every scrote in the land has a nicked flat screen tele and more trainers and mobiles than they have hands and feet.
That's just for starters.

+1

 

[TallTom]

Fortunately I live somewhere with just a bargain booze, a one stop, a chippy, a vets and a post office. They would get bored after ten minutes and bugger off

I used to work in that Bargin Booze a few years ago while I was at Uni!

 

[Shadeyman]

BBM suspended.

The instant messaging service on BlackBerry smartphones, thought to be used by London rioters to organise themselves, may be shut down at the request of the police tonight, as Benjamin Cohen reports.

http://www.channel4.com/news/blackberry-messenger-curfew-expected-to-hinder-rioting

 

[wellsy87]

The use of rubber bullets being 'considered' after years of not having to use them in this country...maybe if they did use them this wouldn't be happening in the first place!

There are too many MP's saying that this can be resolved in other ways...clearly it can't be. 3 nights of riots and nothing has been done except put more police on the streets, but then there have been more rioters on the streets too.

The police need to toughen up and make a stand against people who are clearly breaking the law and shoot them down, not to kill but to restrain.

 

[Dominion]

Personally, I think the use of rubber bullets is long overdue. It most likely wouldn't take more than a few rounds, just to let the morons know that the cops were serious, before they'd run off crying like the stupid little children they are.

 

[Focus Owner]

ah accidently have a razorblade on the floor that breaks the tendons in there fithing hands

 

[Shadeyman]

Not sure having women officers on the front line during these riots is a good idea.

 

[JustAndy]

Not sure having women officers on the front line during these riots is a good idea.

I agree, not being sexist at all but i think that the rioters would rather back away from a 6 foot brick **** house or an officer than a female officer

 

[Focus Owner]

you doubting them?
sexist.

 

[Shadeyman]

I agree, not being sexist at all but i think that the rioters would rather back away from a 6 foot brick **** house or an officer than a female officer

I'm not being sexist either, just concerned.
My x-wife is on duty in Birmingham tonight. 4 of her female colleagues where injured there last night. There's a serious lake of riot trained officers. Many front lines have 6 riot clad officers backed by 20 normal officers. Its completely inadequate and is putting many female officers at risk as they're easier targets for the rioters(fact, not sexist).

 

[Modette]

I dont know how close any of you live to where this is all happening but I live in the borough of Ealing, 5 mins drive from all the mayhem. There have also been incidents in Harlesden and Wembley, 5 mins drive in the other direction. Apparently Southall is a mess too but many of these places dont even seem to be on the radar when you watch the news.

My eldest son text me a little while ago, he is married and lives in Gunnersbury which is south of Ealing, the looting was in the next street to where he lives and there were helicopters overhead all night. Today he passed through West Ealing on the way to work and he said every single shop and bank was totally smashed in.

I have a Tesco at the end of the road and a Currys around the corner but were I live is mostly suburban, I cant imagine a large gang coming this way to loot one shop but who knows? Its all over the TV that the police are going to be out on force tonight but while they are shouting about where the police are going to be they are also announcing where they are NOT going to be - residential areas like mine. So while the cat is away.....

We are lucky to be able to park both of our cars behind a 7 foot fence at the side of the house, I rarely bother as there is space for three cars on the front drive but tonight they will be hidden from view - just in case.

One of my biggest peeves is that our car insurance is already sky high, we are band 'E' who the hell knows what next years quote will be?

 

[pooroldcodger]

I agree, not being sexist at all but i think that the rioters would rather back away from a 6 foot brick **** house or an officer than a female officer

So give the batten round guns to the female officers . The mobe will run from them just as they would a male brick sh*t house officer!
I have said many times before in my rantings that as a country we have had things far too easy for too long. In fact from the 1960's onwards. As a result we have the wonderful trait of assuming that our trust-based systems will never be abused by anybody and that all citizens are basically good sorts who just need a bit of support if they step out of line. We can afford to be the most generous and tolreant nation on earth becuase we have such a nice life.
Or, looked at from the perspective of somebody who has travelled to dozens of countries over the years, we are a soft touch. A spineless country.What do they say about bullys? If you don't stand up to them they will keep hurting you until you do. It is time our politicians woke up and realised that they have a responsibilty to look after the whole country, not just those who shout loudest or threaten us, in whatever forms those threats come.

 

[Dominion]

What do they say about bullys? If you don't stand up to them they will keep hurting you until you do. It is time our politicians woke up and realised that they have a responsibilty to look after the whole country, not just those who shout loudest or threaten us, in whatever forms those threats come.

I feel that the next coupe of days could either make or break President Cameron. If he shows some backbone and hits this issue with everything he has at his disposal, then many more people will respect him. If he dithers for too long, listening to the do-gooders and the human rights bullsh!t brigade, then he's as good as finished. This really could be a defining period for him, and it'll be interesting at the very least.

 

[ChrisUK]

One of my biggest peeves is that our car insurance is already sky high, we are band 'E' who the hell knows what next years quote will be?

Ouch!

 

[BlueDan]

I used to work in that Bargin Booze a few years ago while I was at Uni!

In Chedd?

I predict a riot in this thread soon. Cant we all just get along? :hug:

Everyone needs a cuppa.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixel-eight/6024429000/

re insurance, how many companies are going to weasel out of paying, and put the premiums up next year too?

 

[Modette]

In Chedd?



Everyone needs a cuppa.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixel-eight/6024429000/

re insurance, how many companies are going to weasel out of paying, and put the premiums up next year too?

Anyone who is third party only has already lost out.

 

[BlueDan]

Anyone who is third party only has already lost out.

Their cars are probably worth <100 quid if they're only third party.

I mean if you're first party and they still don't pay, they tend to have that weird crap in the T&C about nuclear warfare, terrorism, acts of god (hah - blanket get out for a lot of stuff there), sonic booms, malfunctioning radar equipment, etc.

 

[ben]

They just looted my local poundland and I'm about to drive to southall....

 

[Dominion]

They just looted my local poundland and I'm about to drive to southall....

It'll be over soon if they've resorted to looting Poundland. Obviously not many businesses left....