Technical Torque angle gauge

[pooroldcodger]

Just looking at getting a torque angle gauge.
Halford have one which seems expensive for what it is.
I have seen ones that look better at the same price from Sealey, and also a cheap thing that looks like a cutting disc with degrees printed on.
Does anybody have one that works well that they can recommend?
Thanks

 

[kolza]

http://m.screwfix.com/p/teng-tools-drive-torque-wrench/22796

This is what i'm using for chunky bolts. Mine is is 40-400Nm or something close to.

 

[g8rpi]

Just looking at getting a torque angle gauge.
Halford have one which seems expensive for what it is.
I have seen ones that look better at the same price from Sealey, and also a cheap thing that looks like a cutting disc with degrees printed on.
Does anybody have one that works well that they can recommend?
Thanks

How often are you going to use it? If it's once, a bit of thin card cut into a disc with the required angle marked as two lines from the center (use a school protractor) a bit of wire for a pointer and some duct tape will do it. The only issue with the DIY approach is holding everthing in place. Put a hole in the center of the card so it's a tight fit on the socket. use the wire and duct tapr to make a pointer close to the edge of the disk.with the socket on the bolt. When the requiired torque is reached turn the disc so the first mark aligns with the pointer, then tighten the bolt further until the second mark reaches the pointer.

Alternatvely Machine Mart sell some basic ones for under £15. You don't need to spend much, it's not a critical meaurement.

HTH,
Robert G8RPI.

 

[pooroldcodger]

Head gasket bolts. So I am not planning on using it too regularly!
I assumed that as the manuals specify it, then the angle turns must be quite important?

 

[varesecrazy]

Head gasket bolts. So I am not planning on using it too regularly!
I assumed that as the manuals specify it, then the angle turns must be quite important?

see one of my previous HG - how to - replies,

Charlie

 

[andyholli]

I've got a Halfords one you're welcome to borrow for the cost of postage. - P.M. me your address and I can get it off in the morning if its urgent.

 

[firstcar-Y10]

They're not particularly difficult angles to judge though, if I remember right for head bolts it's tighten to specified torque, then one half turn to all the bolts, then another. So using a breaker bar you just face it directly away from you, then turn until it faces directly toward you (or vice versa, or left to right or whatever). You'll need a standard torque wrench for the initial tighten but I'm sure you don't need a gauge to get 180 degrees right.

 

[pooroldcodger]

I've got a Halfords one you're welcome to borrow for the cost of postage. - P.M. me your address and I can get it off in the morning if its urgent.

Thanks for the offer.
I should know better by tomorrow night when I have finished investigating.

 

[pooroldcodger]

They're not particularly difficult angles to judge though, if I remember right for head bolts it's tighten to specified torque, then one half turn to all the bolts, then another. So using a breaker bar you just face it directly away from you, then turn until it faces directly toward you (or vice versa, or left to right or whatever). You'll need a standard torque wrench for the initial tighten but I'm sure you don't need a gauge to get 180 degrees right.

Agreed about that.I was just unsure how accurate it has to be.

 

[andyholli]

They're not particularly difficult angles to judge though, if I remember right for head bolts it's tighten to specified torque, then one half turn to all the bolts, then another. So using a breaker bar you just face it directly away from you, then turn until it faces directly toward you (or vice versa, or left to right or whatever). You'll need a standard torque wrench for the initial tighten but I'm sure you don't need a gauge to get 180 degrees right.

I agree. And the tool isn't particularly easy to use either, for me it adds more anxiety than it suppresses.

 

[pooroldcodger]

I agree. And the tool isn't particularly easy to use either, for me it adds more anxiety than it suppresses.

probably right. You can easily scre yourself to death if you read too much!

 

[pooroldcodger]

see one of my previous HG - how to - replies,

Charlie

I will look for that.

 

[dave]

dont try with out a gauge when you have one you will notice how much flex there is in the tool you are turning with, end of breaker bar will turn a lot more than 90 when the gauge is at 90

 

[mrcinquecento]

dont try with out a gauge when you have one you will notice how much flex there is in the tool you are turning with, end of breaker bar will turn a lot more than 90 when the gauge is at 90

That's why you don't judge it by the end if the bar, you judge it by the position of the socket/top of ratchet. Thankfully 90 degrees is very easy to measure.

Can easily and effectively be done with a black marker pen or bit of electrical tape on the side of the socket/top of the ratchet. Put the mark on the side, turn until it's pointed directly at you, repeat for the next one, takes 10 seconds per bolt to set up.

 

[varesecrazy]

I will look for that.

https://www.fiatforum.com/palio/282...der-el-cylinder-head-tightening-sequence.html

Charlie