sweet wrapper charge

[jonboy739]

my daughter lyla has made it into the national papers with my partners sister for dropping a small sweet wrapper out of a car window. here is a link to it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1194138/Teenager-hauled-court-baby-niece-drops-wrapper.html

how stupid can you get

 

[JFL]

nice to see she was driving a punto

 

[jonboy739]

nice to see she was driving a punto

its a very dinted one she cant drive to save her life

 

[ThisBitterPill]

You must be very proud....

 

[jenks69]

Total shocker to be fair that it got that far

But I've got to ask was the child copying an adult by throwing rubbish out of the window? Or just something she did as a one off?

 

[jonboy739]

Total shocker to be fair that it got that far

But I've got to ask was the child copying an adult by throwing rubbish out of the window? Or just something she did as a one off?

no we are not litter bugs, my side pocket is over flowing with with rubbish because i dont throw it out the window

 

[jonboy739]

You must be very proud....

no im very mithed that money i learn and pay out to the goverment and council is wasted on things as stupid as this

 

[ThisBitterPill]

no im very mithed that money i learn and pay out to the goverment and council is wasted on things as stupid as this

In that case why waste more taxpayers money by choosing to take it to court rather than paying the fine....?

Did she get paid for posing for the pictures btw....?

 

[dave]

why ist she a member if she has a puno?

 

[Focus Owner]

im afraid im with the no littering law
i keep all in my door pocket.
wait
i now agree that since it was a baby its ok
thought it was your daughter

and since it was technically dropped by a under 16
them being the main litterers anyways
why was it taken so far legally
reported by a passer by!?

 

[jonboy739]

In that case why waste more taxpayers money by choosing to take it to court rather than paying the fine....?

Did she get paid for posing for the pictures btw....?

have you read the article???
why should she pay it for my 14 month old daughter at the time dropping a small mint wrapper out of the window? £75 fine is alot for a £30 a week student to pay, especialy when she didn't do it.

do you just bend over a get shafted for everything?

 

[Helz]

Sorry but she was in control of both car and little girl so she should take responsibility for them

I hate seeing litter lining the streets

 

[jonboy739]

Sorry but she was in control of both car and little girl so she should take responsibility for them

I hate seeing litter lining the streets

so you say she should be watching what my daughter is doing instead of watching the road?

 

[Helz]

Make sure before she sets off that there aren't things within easy reach of a baby and she's well strapped in - what if she'd swallowed the wrapper and choked on it, or there'd been a smash and she wasn't strapped in properly?

 

[Citizen Smith]

At the end of the day the adult is responsible for the child fullstop including their upbringing - had the value of not dropping litter been instilled properly / reinforced there would be no fine to pay.

 

[jonboy739]

im sorry people but this is a 14 month old girl dropping a small sweet wrapper out of a window, she knows no better and she put no lifes in danger and the fine was £75, just remind me what the fine is for speeding! £60

 

[johnw]

why should she pay it for my 14 month old daughter at the time dropping a small mint wrapper out of the window? £75 fine is alot for a £30 a week student to pay, especialy when she didn't do it.

The fine was her responsibility to pay because she was the adult in charge of the child at the time. The fines are fixed amounts because the council staff are not trained to assess fines according to defendants means as would happen in a court. When she got to court her income was taken into account and no fine imposed. We do this all the time in the magistrates courts. it is an inevitable consequence of giving police/judicial powers to people who are not trained for the work.

Expect it to get worse as more and more people are given the power to impose fines.

 

[Citizen Smith]

im sorry people but this is a 14 month old girl dropping a small sweet wrapper out of a window, she knows no better and she put no lifes in danger and the fine was £75, just remind me what the fine is for speeding! £60

Why does she not know better ? and hence why the adult responsible was orderd to pay the fine

 

[Focus Owner]

Make sure before she sets off that there aren't things within easy reach of a baby and she's well strapped in - what if she'd swallowed the wrapper and choked on it, or there'd been a smash and she wasn't strapped in properly?

18 month olds dont choke they can walk n talk cant they?
getting that bit smarter

 

[ThisBitterPill]

18 month olds dont choke they can walk n talk cant they?

Are you serious?