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it is not possible/near impossible to go through life abiding by every single law ever created. The same if a person breaks major laws. But things like parking? dont u see how utterly ridiculous it sounds calling sum1 a criminal for it and why then sum1 comes back with the above (rather amusing) eg
Lighten up ur gunna sprain something!
 
The Negotiator said:
Why, does your girlfriend set UK law?
Your quoted definition never mentioned anything about area, just about the actions and necessities which make someone a criminal.

And I'm single, its been a long time since I've been convicted of such gross misconduct.

Negotiator... you really need to chill out, seriously.
 
Nope, I am just as fine as you thanks, why do people say that when they are losing a discussion?

Can you really not understand the simple definition?

An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it and for which punishment is imposed upon conviction.

So if your gf sets the law, then yes, you are a criminal. If she sets UK law (which she doesn't) you are a criminal in the eyes of UK law, if she just says when you should be back, you're not a criminal in the eyes of UK law since there's no law against you being back late.

You would be aiming more in the right direction with 3 or 4, but being back late doesn't make you a criminal.
 
The Negotiator said:
So if your gf sets the law, then yes, you are a criminal.
This made me LOL :D

But like I said, the Quoted Definition of what lables a person as a law breaker covers my hypothetical scenario.

dave said:
oi Trancendental if your mum says be in by 2200 then be in, don't be bad an make her worry :mad:

:p
:p Mum n Dad used to... but since I got my wheels I'm expempt as long as I inform the 'roof over my head' law keepers of where I'm going and with whom I am going to be associationg with on arrival.

They know once the motor is with me I'll make it back and won't have to depend on public transport.

sammiboo said:
Are we not getting a little OT here people?

If it carries on as a slanging match it will be locked.
I'm just playing ;) My opionions differ from hes and thats how it will remain forever.
 
The Negotiator said:
Nope, I am just as fine as you thanks, why do people say that when they are losing a discussion?

Can you really not understand the simple definition?

An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it and for which punishment is imposed upon conviction.

by definition you cannot lose a discussion

I actually do have a serious question I would like to ask you:

Imagine this scenario:
You live in Nazi Germany, and discover 2 young jewish children hiding in your attic. Just after you discover them the doorbell rings, which you do and answer. There are some nazi soldiers there asking if you have seen 2 children.
Would you tell them the children were there and let them be murdered or not?

just wondering because the attitude which you have with every thread any1 posts is that you would, and with a self righteous attitude too.
 
Considering I am from a Polish/German family and part of my family were murdered within concentration camps, I doubt I would offer them over for death, no, since we don't live in an autocratic, oppressive and fascist governmental regime it's a slightly different issue. When we stop having free and democratic elections, I will stop considering the law to be correct. If I don't want to live under such laws whilst the government remains legal, I will go elsewhere to a place which doesn't require civil obedience.

And yes, of course you can lose a discussion, that's why you have debating teams and people win or lose.

And no Trance, seriously read the dictionary definition and you will see that staying out late doesn't make you a criminal under UK law (unless a law exists as such to forbid you).
 
JjPhoenix said:
by definition you cannot lose a discussion

I actually do have a serious question I would like to ask you:

Imagine this scenario:
You live in Nazi Germany, and discover 2 young jewish children hiding in your attic. Just after you discover them the doorbell rings, which you do and answer. There are some nazi soldiers there asking if you have seen 2 children.
Would you tell them the children were there and let them be murdered or not?

just wondering because the attitude which you have with every thread any1 posts is that you would, and with a self righteous attitude too.

Nazi Germany was democratically elected, but then turned into a fascist dictatorship where the people had no say about who was in power. 'Laws' were then passed that were extremist and did not reflect a western democracy nor the views of the majority of Germans.

That's an unfair hypothetical question you've set there...
 
1986Uno45S said:
Nazi Germany was democratically elected, but then turned into a fascist dictatorship where the people had no say about who was in power. 'Laws' were then passed that were extremist and did not reflect a western democracy nor the views of the majority of Germans.

That's an unfair hypothetical question you've set there...

Snap.

We live in the UK, possibly the most democratic nation in the world - with such stringent rules to keep it as such, it's not Iraq (where force can still win elections) or the USA (where money talks).
 
Well the UK is not fully democratic, nothing can be done about that Conjestion zone and no one voted for that (by no one I mean there were more who didn't wan't it)

There are lots of Scenarios I would like to put to you Negotiator as JjPhoenix has but you might take them as a personal stab.
 
Ok, it was democratic because the people who implemented it were working on behalf of the people who had it imposed. By electing individuals you are giving them permission to do such things.

Undemocratic would be if London transport imposed it, a private company. Don't confuse democracy with having referendums.
 
The Negotiator said:
Snap.

We live in the UK, possibly the most democratic nation in the world - with such stringent rules to keep it as such, it's not Iraq (where force can still win elections) or the USA (where money talks).

the most democratic= conjestion charge, iraq war :chin:
I was giving you that example and yes that is how you come across at times. I am sure if you were in the USA you would be just as brainwashed/nieve about rules as you appear here. This is not meant as a pesonal stab it is an observation
 
I'm quite sure I remember a "Conjestion Charging?? Have your say" thing. the public (majority) said feck orf... it was still implemented. In anycase the politicians say they will do a lot of things when they want in, once they in there ain't much you can do except vote for another set of liars the following election.

But yeah before someone throws a wobbly I understand that the living conditions here are much better then some other places I could be.
 
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