Technical Propshaft

[Harvie]

Fiat Panda Propshaft 4x4 (169) 2004-ON 55222107 55193595 55197051 55264146 | eBay

OE Numbers: 55193595, 55197051, 55222107, 55264146, 0055264146, 0055197051, 0055193595, 0055222107. PANDA MK 2 HATCH (169). 169 A4.000. 1.3 D Multijet 4x4. 169 A1.000; 169 A5.000. PANDA VAN (169_). PANDA VAN (312_, 519_).

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Looking if anyone can help in confirming this will fit
Panda cross 2015 diesel
NL65 UBS
And can i run it in 2 wheel drive while waiting fix?
Answers appreciated

 

[koalar]

Wrong section pre 2012 here

As far as I know there's only propshaft for all models

Yes they work in two wheel drive


Normally it's the centre bearing that goes, it's cheap and replaceable
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[Howard4x4]

I am removing my propshaft at the moment, but in my case, every simple job turns into a nightmare.
This is my second Panda 4x4, first was 2005 plate. I could not undo the FIRST of the 12 hex bolts so took it to the garage.
This is a 2014 diesel, I managed to undo ELEVEN of the twelve hex bolts, needed a bolt extractor to do the twelfth, centre bearing and cover came off without problem. I assumed that the prop would just drop off, ha!
I gave it a good tug and the front came away but not the rear. The prop is stuck inside the 'cup' in the diff.
I have pulled, twisted, hammered, smothered in WD40 from the beginning, smothered in a mixture of Acetone and Auto Transmission Fluid but nothing. I am doing this lying on my back in the drive and am 74 years old.
If anyone understands this problem and has any advice, I would be grateful, or it will go down to the garage. Which means putting some of it back together to be driveable.

 

[koalar]

Hammer

 

[Harvie]

What advice? Run without propshaft while do central bearing again or need new propshaft?

 

[DaveMcT]

What advice? Run without propshaft while do central bearing again or need new propshaft?

Not much help for the poor guy with a prop-shaft stuck to his differential.

 

[DaveMcT]

I am removing my propshaft at the moment, but in my case, every simple job turns into a nightmare.
This is my second Panda 4x4, first was 2005 plate. I could not undo the FIRST of the 12 hex bolts so took it to the garage.
This is a 2014 diesel, I managed to undo ELEVEN of the twelve hex bolts, needed a bolt extractor to do the twelfth, centre bearing and cover came off without problem. I assumed that the prop would just drop off, ha!
I gave it a good tug and the front came away but not the rear. The prop is stuck inside the 'cup' in the diff.
I have pulled, twisted, hammered, smothered in WD40 from the beginning, smothered in a mixture of Acetone and Auto Transmission Fluid but nothing. I am doing this lying on my back in the drive and am 74 years old.
If anyone understands this problem and has any advice, I would be grateful, or it will go down to the garage. Which means putting some of it back together to be driveable.

Try a wedge type bearing puller as used when there is no space for a leg type puller.

Like this

12PCS Gearbox Bearing Splitter Kit Gear Puller Fly Wheel Separator Removal Tool | eBay

Bearing extractor 2. Crossbar 1. Pc yoke with center adapter: yes. Train arms for plates & bearing: 10cm. Colour: black, silver. (Hexagon rod 17mm 3/8 ”x L 127mm x 16t). Extension rod 4. (Hexagon rod 14mm 3/8 ”x L 102mm x 16t).

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[Harvie]

Garage saying no noise through stethescoping prop and wheel bearings on car. Said noise more likely gearbox or transfer box. Second opinion

 

[koalar]

Garage saying no noise through stethescoping prop and wheel bearings on car. Said noise more likely gearbox or transfer box. Second opinion

Is the noise from the front or rear
Is the noise still present with the prop removed
How long have you had the car
What's the noise sound like

 

[DaveMcT]

There is no transfer box. The prop shaft has a pinion off the back of the front differential ring gear. That drives a fluid coupling on the end of the prop shaft. Rear gearbox is just a differential. Take a look on ePER. https://eper.fiatforum.com/

Shaft

24301/00 - TRANSMISSION-TO-AXLE PROPELLER SHAFT

FIAT NUOVA PANDA (2003-2009)

eper.fiatforum.com

Gearbox showing 4x4 rear drive pinion but no sign of the fluid coupling.

21220/02 - DIFFERENTIAL GEARS

FIAT NUOVA PANDA (2003-2009)

eper.fiatforum.com

 

[koalar]

There is no transfer box. The prop shaft has a pinion off the back of the front differential ring gear. That drives a fluid coupling on the end of the prop shaft. Rear gearbox is just a differential. Take a look on ePER. https://eper.fiatforum.com/

Shaft

24301/00 - TRANSMISSION-TO-AXLE PROPELLER SHAFT

FIAT NUOVA PANDA (2003-2009)

eper.fiatforum.com

Gearbox showing 4x4 rear drive pinion but no sign of the fluid coupling.

21220/02 - DIFFERENTIAL GEARS

FIAT NUOVA PANDA (2003-2009)

eper.fiatforum.com

No viscose coupling fiat stopped using them in 2007

It's a 2015

 

[DaveMcT]

There will be some sort of clutch or locking differential between front diff and rear diff. ePer is not clear or does not show the item.