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Punto (Mk1) Project R the Mk1 Cabrio Restoration project

1998 Rosso Red Mk1 Punto ELX Cabrio, that has been very neglected.

Introduction

Project page for my 1998 Punto Cabrio Restoration project. This car was aquired in October 2023, with no service history and in a pretty poor state, however they are becoming extremely rare now in the UK, just a dozen or so of the 1.2 16v models left on the road and about 30 or so cabrios in total.

Pictures are from the forsale add and ones the previous owner sent me before I got it.
looking at the sump it has a nice coat of black paint on top of a surface that is best described as a bit lumpy.

If I had to guess id say someone has painted over some rust. But it seems to be holding the oil in. They are pretty cheap to replace and could do so easily right now. they usually are pressed from a sheet of steel so are usually a lot more "smooth"

Honesty I think at some point someone has loved this car, but for the last few years it's been a bit neglected.
 
I couldn't decide if it had been under sealed or was rust painted over but it looks happy enough...mine had teabag perforations in it a very long time ago.

Although replacing it was cheap...not sure the parts are as cheap and freely available now though haven't looked to be fair.
 
Is because its a convertible it can only go out on sunny days, if that were the case why have a roof at all?
Not always sunny on the same day, it keeps your hair and makeup good for when it starts raining :D

Anyone I've known with a convertible has/had it as a second or third car, just assumed most were like that.
 
I always think it odd that UK buys the highest amount of convertible cars, given our climate. Maybe we are just very optimistic that weather will improve or the aircon in our cars never keeps working long enough.:ROFLMAO:
 
I always think it odd that UK buys the highest amount of convertible cars, given our climate. Maybe we are just very optimistic that weather will improve or the aircon in our cars never keeps working long enough.:ROFLMAO:
we used to be the country that bought more convertibles in europe, than anyone else..... (just checking my grammar there)

I understand that this accolade now falls to Germany who in part have worst conditions than us. We have friends in Germany who always get snow for weeks of the year compared to us with some cold drizzle somewhere around January.


Just a couple more pictures of where I am.

The whole front axle is now ready to go back on the car, though its 70Kg so it will be coming apart and reinstalled in pieces I am not trying to lift this up and connect it to the bottom of the car on my own.

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Before I put this back together, I have been spraying around some rust preventer to make everything last another 25 years.

in doing so I have repainted the slam panel and reconditioned this little number plaque that was installed by Bertone when the car was built.

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So progress has been slow, I have been tied up with a combination of DIY projects, child care and work, however when ever I can I have been crawling under the car and stripping off the old under seal to see how good the floor is. Most of it is surprisingly sold, however I could not ignore the welded patches which were pretty badly patched, so with grinder in hand I carefully removed the patch of the drivers side
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This isn’t too bad, they had basically welded a patch of metal over a hole, this it’s located right near the front of the drivers seat I suspect where water had gotten in the car it had pooled under carpet and rusted the floor from the inside.
This isn’t going to be a bad one to deal with, I will cut out the rot and replace with good metal.

To do this patch work I picked myself up a tiny little gasless mug welder from Amazon during their prime event, it’s a lovely little unit but having not welded in about 13-15 years I definitely need to do some practice, anyway here is the welder I got and I have been enjoying practicing on the old exhaust before it goes in the bin
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Now I will get to the worst of the rust I’ve found so far but I have to share a slight off topic little purchase I also made,
A couple of miles down the road from me, once a month is a very large auto jumble, I went a long a couple of weeks back because I really wanted an old oil can like the ones I remember my grandfather having in the 90s,
He died in 95 and so we threw loads of them out when clearing out his garage.
Anyway I found this lovely little can, cost me just £3
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There was no paint on the can, there were some fragments that suggested it was previously red, the top part was also in pretty bad shape to I gave the whole thing a really good clean up painted the can black and nickel plated the whole top part, then didn’t clean it up or polish it to give it an old patina.
I love it, such a lovely little thing and will come in handy doing jobs around the house. It’s currently filled with some left over oil from my Punto Evo.

So the worst rust, well on the passenger side there was a very large patch of steel just welded over the underside of the floor, I needed to cut the steel off to take a better look, and well, it doesn’t look good.

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What you can see is the panel I cut off hanging down to the Left of the picture, the sill and the floor pan in the center, this is located at the back of the passenger seat and as you can see it’s a pretty large area of rot.

That all being said I have been under the car again tonight and it’s a lot better than you might think. No part of the sill is rusted, that is solid, there is a cross member through the middle of the rot which is also untouched, so it really is just the floor that needs replacement. I suppose to do it properly I am going to have to take out the whole interior. The previous repair being over the top of the whole large area meant any water in the passenger side of the car now had its own reservoir to fill up under the bottom of the car.
I suspect a pool of water had developed between the plat and the floor and just caused the floor pan to disintegrate.

Anyway repairs are going to take a while the whole interior needs to come out along with the carpets, so while I do that I will also start stripping back the body work here is the progress made on sanding off the very bad respray it’s had in the past.
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Oh and I have also been refurbishing the Punto GT 5 spoke wheels I obtained, you can see it fitted to the car without tires in the picture about, about a thousand times better than the much later model Punto wheels fitted when I got the car
 
So progress has been slow, I have been tied up with a combination of DIY projects, child care and work, however when ever I can I have been crawling under the car and stripping off the old under seal to see how good the floor is. Most of it is surprisingly sold, however I could not ignore the welded patches which were pretty badly patched, so with grinder in hand I carefully removed the patch of the drivers side
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This isn’t too bad, they had basically welded a patch of metal over a hole, this it’s located right near the front of the drivers seat I suspect where water had gotten in the car it had pooled under carpet and rusted the floor from the inside.
This isn’t going to be a bad one to deal with, I will cut out the rot and replace with good metal.

To do this patch work I picked myself up a tiny little gasless mug welder from Amazon during their prime event, it’s a lovely little unit but having not welded in about 13-15 years I definitely need to do some practice, anyway here is the welder I got and I have been enjoying practicing on the old exhaust before it goes in the bin
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Now I will get to the worst of the rust I’ve found so far but I have to share a slight off topic little purchase I also made,
A couple of miles down the road from me, once a month is a very large auto jumble, I went a long a couple of weeks back because I really wanted an old oil can like the ones I remember my grandfather having in the 90s,
He died in 95 and so we threw loads of them out when clearing out his garage.
Anyway I found this lovely little can, cost me just £3
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There was no paint on the can, there were some fragments that suggested it was previously red, the top part was also in pretty bad shape to I gave the whole thing a really good clean up painted the can black and nickel plated the whole top part, then didn’t clean it up or polish it to give it an old patina.
I love it, such a lovely little thing and will come in handy doing jobs around the house. It’s currently filled with some left over oil from my Punto Evo.

So the worst rust, well on the passenger side there was a very large patch of steel just welded over the underside of the floor, I needed to cut the steel off to take a better look, and well, it doesn’t look good.

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What you can see is the panel I cut off hanging down to the Left of the picture, the sill and the floor pan in the center, this is located at the back of the passenger seat and as you can see it’s a pretty large area of rot.

That all being said I have been under the car again tonight and it’s a lot better than you might think. No part of the sill is rusted, that is solid, there is a cross member through the middle of the rot which is also untouched, so it really is just the floor that needs replacement. I suppose to do it properly I am going to have to take out the whole interior. The previous repair being over the top of the whole large area meant any water in the passenger side of the car now had its own reservoir to fill up under the bottom of the car.
I suspect a pool of water had developed between the plat and the floor and just caused the floor pan to disintegrate.

Anyway repairs are going to take a while the whole interior needs to come out along with the carpets, so while I do that I will also start stripping back the body work here is the progress made on sanding off the very bad respray it’s had in the past.
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Oh and I have also been refurbishing the Punto GT 5 spoke wheels I obtained, you can see it fitted to the car without tires in the picture about, about a thousand times better than the much later model Punto wheels fitted when I got the car
So it will be finished by tomorrow night as customer needs it urgently?:):):)
 
I like stuff like the oil can, a bargain at £3.

The welder looks impressive. I can't wait for you to tell us more about it and how you find it to weld with. When I was running my "hobby weld" evening classes I always encouraged folk to bring along their own machines because every machine is different to use so folk would get best value from the classes if they were learning on their own machine. I note you say this one is a gasless machine? Students would bring both gas and gasless machines to the class and the opinion I got from working with both types was that trying to weld relatively thin body metal was quite a bit more difficult with the gasless machines, which is a pity as they are generally a little cheaper to buy and you don't have the extra expense of buying gas. Of course back then inverter technology wasn't available on more affordable machines and that should make for a more stable arc so I'm very interested to learn how you get on with this machine. Welding - and making brake pipes - are two of my most enjoyable tasks and I hope you have an enjoyable time with your new purchase.

Edit. PS. I agree the refurbished wheel looks much nicer.
 
So it will be finished by tomorrow night as customer needs it urgently?:):):)
You know that was the reason for the previous poor repair. just patch it over and kick it out.

I like stuff like the oil can, a bargain at £3.

The welder looks impressive. I can't wait for you to tell us more about it and how you find it to weld with. When I was running my "hobby weld" evening classes I always encouraged folk to bring along their own machines because every machine is different to use so folk would get best value from the classes if they were learning on their own machine. I note you say this one is a gasless machine? Students would bring both gas and gasless machines to the class and the opinion I got from working with both types was that trying to weld relatively thin body metal was quite a bit more difficult with the gasless machines, which is a pity as they are generally a little cheaper to buy and you don't have the extra expense of buying gas. Of course back then inverter technology wasn't available on more affordable machines and that should make for a more stable arc so I'm very interested to learn how you get on with this machine. Welding - and making brake pipes - are two of my most enjoyable tasks and I hope you have an enjoyable time with your new purchase.

Edit. PS. I agree the refurbished wheel looks much nicer.
I have has a little play with it on the old exhaust pipe but as you'll know the exhaust varies in metal thickness due to age and its a mixture of blowing holes in thin patches to welding nicely in thicker patches depending on the internal corrosion of the pipe. I found a fairly good part of the pipe and managed to lay down some nice welds, but yesterday I dropped in and saw my brother who converts vans to campers and acquired a couple of cut out panels from vans where he has fitted windows, these are nice thick brand new panels with no corrosion, so I can do some proper practice once I strip the paint off. I can also use this metal to make my repairs, unfortunately I cannot find any repair panels for the car in stock anywhere so I am going to have to make my own repairs.

if you are interested jock, check out this video, this is the same welder I got. Its quite a nice little unit. I might in the future buy a tig head for it and get my dad to teach me some tig welding. The tig head comes with a pipe to connect gas. Then if feeling really adventurous there is a spool gun for welding alloy.
 
You know that was the reason for the previous poor repair. just patch it over and kick it out.


I have has a little play with it on the old exhaust pipe but as you'll know the exhaust varies in metal thickness due to age and its a mixture of blowing holes in thin patches to welding nicely in thicker patches depending on the internal corrosion of the pipe. I found a fairly good part of the pipe and managed to lay down some nice welds, but yesterday I dropped in and saw my brother who converts vans to campers and acquired a couple of cut out panels from vans where he has fitted windows, these are nice thick brand new panels with no corrosion, so I can do some proper practice once I strip the paint off. I can also use this metal to make my repairs, unfortunately I cannot find any repair panels for the car in stock anywhere so I am going to have to make my own repairs.

if you are interested jock, check out this video, this is the same welder I got. Its quite a nice little unit. I might in the future buy a tig head for it and get my dad to teach me some tig welding. The tig head comes with a pipe to connect gas. Then if feeling really adventurous there is a spool gun for welding alloy.

Thanks for the link Andy, I'll enjoy viewing it I'm sure. TIG was the only thing I never learned properly. My friend, who taught the North sea pipe welding class at our local college, let me "mess about" with one a couple of times but I wasn't much good at it - Strange since I learned on Gas and love it, later doing stick and MIG/MAG all of which I like to think I'm reasonably proficient with.
 
Repair panels,

Wings and sills were around a few years ago..
But floor, etc you want to just cut parts to suit
front floor panels appear some places but are out of stock, the rears just don't seem to exist. I am going to have to fabricate.

I have acquired some nice chunks of VW T6 transporter van, so it should be better metal than it was made out of to start with. (cut out to install windows) these panels are as big as pretty much the whole floor pan of one side of the car, so I should have plenty of material. The one thing I am struggling with is the mounting piece for the seat, there is a small separate shaped part that doubles the thickness of the floor at the mounting point. I need to think how I am going to make this part, everything else is a doddle.
 
front floor panels appear some places but are out of stock, the rears just don't seem to exist. I am going to have to fabricate.

I have acquired some nice chunks of VW T6 transporter van, so it should be better metal than it was made out of to start with. (cut out to install windows) these panels are as big as pretty much the whole floor pan of one side of the car, so I should have plenty of material. The one thing I am struggling with is the mounting piece for the seat, there is a small separate shaped part that doubles the thickness of the floor at the mounting point. I need to think how I am going to make this part, everything else is a doddle.
Could you separate and reuse the "seat mount" element..? 🤔

Authenticity is good,
rotten metal.. Not so valued
 
You can see why the law is trying to change on car mods, real cars are tested to death on safety, not just some joe bloggs in his garage making stuff up like seat mounts...
 
Naw, He's called Andy ;) :ROFLMAO: Sorry! Just my silly brain.
To be Fair, Vexorg seems to follow me and some others around the forum recently needing to comment on literally everything and rarely has anything positive to say.

In this instance, if you consider the repair that was their before was likely done by a cheap garage to get it through an MOT, (can't fail the MOT on rust if you can't see the rust) and there are literally thousands of cars driving around on the road like this, any repairs that this Joe Bloggs does is likely to be better than what was previously deemed good enough for the MOT.

I am to make it as good as OEM
 
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