right guys, the admin staff have been speaking about this in the past, and we're thinking of doing the nurburgring in 2011! touching nicely onto the subject or taking a car over. I was all up for taking the Grande sporting with me till reality sank in and got me thinking, what if I crash? could I really put my poor Grande through that? so what I've decided to do is buy another fiat through saving up through all next year! was thinking of getting a coupe for the run over! any other better options?, and no fraz, I'm not buying a 126! lol