General Panda 750 Progress

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General Panda 750 Progress

I booked today off work to play with Splutter and I was hoping for a nice day, thankfully it was. :)

He was running a bit cold, never getting up to 90 unless in heavy traffic, so I drained the coolant and changed the thermostat, he's now sitting at 90 and getting up to temp quickly. One problem arose that 'fixed' itself, the fan wasn't kicking in. I was going in for a cuppa and dropped the spare wheel back in place and hey presto, the fan started up, it's been working since. A loose wire no doubt.

He also had an oil and filter change and is running really well once warm. When cold it's a different matter. I was taking my son to school this morning and he died in heavy traffic, I now know what Jim was on about with the worst 90 seconds of his life... He seems to flood really easily when cold and takes 4 or 5 prolonged turns of the key and a lot of playing with the choke to get going again. Any ideas?
 
Steve said:
He seems to flood really easily when cold and takes 4 or 5 prolonged turns of the key and a lot of playing with the choke to get going again. Any ideas?
don't stall
 
Its cause your used to the torque of the bigger fire engines and going in to second too quickly

Keep the choke full out and don't be so lazy trying to make splutter haul your ass round everywhere in 2nd...

1st and lots of revs saves the day every time(y)

Jim
 
Steve said:
Unfortunately it isn't my choice. Even with my right foot planted to the floor it cuts out. Twice now.

Hi Steve, I was really interested to read your post.

If your 750 is anything like mine, then you will only have this problem when it is cold and wet. My car can behave like an absolute dog when it wants!

When I start the car, I only pull out the choke after it starts - adjusting up as necessary for tick over (if it is REALLY cold then she needs choke from the off). I have had problems in traffic because it doesn't like the choke out for too long and starts to splutter when you stop at traffic lights or in a queue. I usually push the choke in when the temperature guage reaches the first mark and then blip the throttle from time to time. She runs like a dream once she is warm.
But the car can also be a pig to start when she is warm, as I found out in Sainsbury's car park a few weeks ago. Eventually she started with me revving like a complete idiot. LAUGH IT UP YOU GUYS WITH AUTOMATIC CHOKE!!!

By the way, on an unrelated issue it might be worth you all checking out your batteries for charge what with all these damp starts and the exta use of headlights - I got caught out a couple of Mondays ago and had to walk over 3 miles to catch my train!

Russ
 
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Pandarus said:
But the car can also be a pig to start when she is warm, as I found out in Sainsbury's car park a few weeks ago. Eventually she started with me revving like a complete idiot. LAUGH IT UP YOU GUYS WITH AUTOMATIC CHOKE!!!

By the way, on an unrelated issue it might be worth you all checking out your batteries for charge what with all these damp starts and the exta use of headlights - I got caught out a couple of Mondays ago and had to walk over 3 miles to catch my train!

Russ

Splutter is never THAT bad! lol

Jim
 
Pandarus said:
Thanks for your sympathy Jim!

Russ

I just miss my 750 already!

If I'd of had the choice I'd of taken Splutter to the USA instead of Sylvia... With her 5 gears, bigger engine and proper seats Sylvia just made it all too easy, hehe!:D

I like a Challenge!:p

Jim
 
Martin, Splutter hasn't failed to start when warm. When was the last time you serviced your 750? This morning I follows Jim's advice, plenty of right foot in first and no problems. But yes, he runs like a dog when cold generally, compared to the 999cc and 903cc Pandas I've had, and Lloyd (750) didn't like the cold either.
 
Steve said:
Martin, Splutter hasn't failed to start when warm. When was the last time you serviced your 750? This morning I follows Jim's advice, plenty of right foot in first and no problems. But yes, he runs like a dog when cold generally, compared to the 999cc and 903cc Pandas I've had, and Lloyd (750) didn't like the cold either.

Hi Steve, I serviced my 750 about a year ago so probably due another one - she never fails to start touch wood but can sometimes be a little tempramental when starting from warm.

My 903 Uno could be a bit tempremantal starting too. Oh how I love these quirky cars...!

Russ
 
Ever since I picked Splutter up I was thinking he was a bit heavy on fuel, more like a 1.2 than a 769cc. I checked him over a few days back and didn't spot anything obvious, so I went at him today determined to find the cause. First I checked the obvious, the fuel pipes. I replaced the hose to the carb last December when I bought the car so I knew that was good:

https://www.fiatforum.com/showpost.php?p=578571&postcount=10

The next check was the hose from the filter to the pump. It was cracked and dripping petrol when under pressure. With the engine off I didn't spot it and the fuel was evaporating very quickly leaving no trace. With the engine on and the system under pressure it was leaking petrol down onto the engine. Almost fire number 2 for Splutter!

At first glance everything looks fine.

Broken_Fuel_Hose.jpg


But look closer.

Broken_Fuel_Hose_Close_Up.jpg


£2.29 later and a new piece of hose and filter are fitted.

New_Fuel_Hose_and_Filter.jpg


Hopefully he'll be back to his usual 55-60 mpg now. :)
 
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