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General Panda 4x4
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Thanks fella's, yes now think the white was a good choice, really suits it!
It's got an electronic coupling to the centre diff.
Really, so no viscouse crap?
And this electric coupling engage/disengane in milli seconds?
Really, so no viscouse crap?
Not sure what makes you think the viscose system is crap, can't be that crap or it wouldn't be the adopted method in a lot of top end 4x4s.
There is no top end cars that have viscouse system. There is no actual physical connection in such a system....only some silicone liquid that tend to heat up and not work properly after hard use. Volkswagen stopped using this in 1997 or something and got the haldex coupling that most top end 4wd cars have these day's. Viscouse you'll find in small cars like Suzuki Swift, Toyota Urban Cruiser etc that claim they have propper 4x4, but not in my eyes. I have tried this system on my own with a Suzuki - and it is CRAP!
Viscous is a liquid system. It works well, and very reliable.
It is an outdated system with lot's of disadvantages...and like I said; there is no physical connection between front and read axle, this liquid is supposed to transfer the power. But back to topic of my question; is there some documentation somewhere how the 4x4 system on the new Panda work?
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Scaniaman, you're talking crap. Subaru's use viscous couplings and they're pretty darn good
Scaniaman, you're talking crap. Subaru's use viscous couplings and they're pretty darn good
LoL! Subaru use symmetrical AWD that is a permanent mecanical system...and have NO viscouse couplings. Audi Quattro is a permanent system, Volkswagen, Land Rovers, Volvos use haldex system...like I said; only small cars like Swift, Ignis still use viscouse...real awd cars left this system 13 years ago.
Damn, looks like conventional automatic gearboxes were all crap also.
I am not here to argue with you people; but I owned a Suzuki Wagon R with "4wd" in form of a viscouse coupling...and it would not stand what I would call normal driving up steap hills to get home in winter because the coupling warmed up and stopped working and I only had 2wd. It is a well knows thing to happen with Balenos also....and VW and Volvo went away from this system because it wasn't good enough.
All I am after is how the 4x4 on the new Panda works guys...
LoL! Subaru use symmetrical AWD that is a permanent mecanical system...and have NO viscouse couplings. Audi Quattro is a permanent system, Volkswagen, Land Rovers, Volvos use haldex system...like I said; only small cars like Swift, Ignis still use viscouse...real awd cars left this system 13 years ago.
Yeah right.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/50540/subaru_legacy.html
http://driveperformance2.subaru.com/version4_2/online_ex.asp
Perhaps it's time to get an education before you go shooting your mouth off and making yourself look like a fool.
You've been told how it works ffs! Yet you're still here ragging on viscous (viscose is nothing to do with diffs) couplings which are quite decent in Subaru's and fairly modern ones at that.
They are not modern I'm afraid. But no; I have not been told how the Panda work. Is is a viscouse coupling in the new Panda, or is it not?- Joined
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What I understand is that the Panda uses an electronic clutch system similar to that fitted to the Cross.
2007 isn't modern?
You really are a slow learner, you've been told how the 4x4 system of the new Panda works and you refuse to listen.
You don't know nearly as much as you think you do, symmetrical all wheel drive has been present in Subaru's since the late 80's from the Legacy onwards and does not indicate a non-viscous centre diff at all! It refers to the fact that the drivetrain is symmetrical because there is no use of a transfer box which results in a non-symmetrical drivetrain.
See an old Range Rover/Land Rover drivetrain for what I mean. Nothing to do with it being a viscous centre diff or not.
Yes. And they write it is maintenance free, and a viscouse coupling I guess need a fliud change every now and then. Just would be great to have a video or schematic drawing of this new system on the Panda.
Yes. And they write it is maintenance free, and a viscouse coupling I guess need a fliud change every now and then. Just would be great to have a video or schematic drawing of this new system on the Panda.
NO NO NO NO NO! Please stop spouting crap all the time. Viscous couplings are non-serviceable units, the fluid in them is under a certain amount of pressure and you can't simply refill the coupling with fluid. If a viscous coupling is faulty then it needs to be replaced, end of story.
