New UK MOT rules December 2011

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New UK MOT rules December 2011

MIL illuminated is not and never will be a fail according to my MOT tester
Malc my MOT Man said:
...It's not a fail because no fault that illuminates the MIL is safety critical...
a point well made i feel!

Airbag warning has a ruling coming in over the summer that means it fails if its on or doesn't cycle right. but at present an active airbag warning is not a fail... and i know this because mine passed this afternoon with the airbag warning on!
 
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MIL illuminated is not and never will be a fail according to my MOT tester
a point well made i feel!

Airbag warning has a ruling coming in over the summer that means it fails if its on or doesn't cycle right. but at present an active airbag warning is not a fail... and i know this because mine passed this afternoon with the airbag warning on!

Ment to update this, my MOT confirmed exactly the same on Wednesday regarding the MIL :)
 
i will admit, when i drive the MG-B im aware i drive differently, possibly due to the lack of airbags... crumple zones... lots of pointy things... **** brakes...

MGBs have crumple zone(s?). fairly effective too, however on early ones without collapsible steering column you'd get speared by that :eek: Though that was a new car presumably, before any rot and/or repairs had occured. There is a video on the web somewhere, along with other BMC cars. http://www.britishpathe.com/video/bmc-crash-test Impressive that it looks like it's actually bent the solid rear axle!

Mine hasn't got standard front brakes so stops on a penny:cool:, but the design of standard system doesn't seem that bad, unless yours doesn't have a servo? I like the fact the later cars apparently came with a brake failure warning light, i'd imagine that to be very reassuring :devil:

Just a thought, i'm pretty sure it's just a crumple zone at the front, as incorporating one at the back where the steel fuel tank is doesn't seem a good idea.....
 
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Come on lad's this thread aint delivering, my brother in law has bought a Vectra with a orange light on (ecu/electrical fault light), will it fail? Or WHEN will it fail MOT? Should we be getting it tested now before the change (if it does) come in???:confused:
 
Come on lad's this thread aint delivering, my brother in law has bought a Vectra with a orange light on (ecu/electrical fault light), will it fail? Or WHEN will it fail MOT? Should we be getting it tested now before the change (if it does) come in???:confused:

If its the MIL then no it won't fail, ever at the moment unless they bring it in in a few years time (y)
 
New UK MOT Car Test.


The UK MOT test for cars is being revised from January 2012, with a number of changes.


The UK MOT (Ministry of Transport) test for cars and other vehicles started in 1960 covering basic car systems such as brakes, steering and lights.

The test was broadened in 1977 to include more areas of the vehicle, including the car body structure.

Emmissions testing was introduced in 1996 including the 'cat test' to test catalytic converters on cars equipped with them (generally cars manufactured from 1992).

The MOT test became computerised in 2005, with MOT testing stations being linked up to a central database to access vehicle details, and log pass/ fail information. This also saw the introduction of computer printed MOT certificates and fail or advise sheets, replacing the traditional hand written certificate with the MOT testing stations pressed stamp in the bottom corner, and hand ticked and written pass/fail/advise sheet, often with a greasy thumb print!




The car MOT test generally covers the following items:

Body structure condition, Brakes (including parking brake), suspension, steering, driveshafts, wheels and tyres, wheel bearings, lights and reflectors, mirrors, seatbelts, numberplates, windscreen, front wipers and washers, horn, exhaust conditon and security, and exhaust emmissions.

At present a car neeeds to be tested at 3 years old and then every year afterwards. There is speculation that to bring the UK in line with Europe, changes may be implemented so that MOT testing may start when a car is 4 years old, with re-testing every 2 years.


NEW MOT

The MOT test is set to change by January 2012 with the following POSSIBLE changes:

1) Dashboard Warning Lights

A car will fail an MOT tset if a dashboard warning light shows a problem such as Airbags, Electric Power Steering, Electonic stability sytem and additional restraint systems.

2) Electrical Wiring

The condition of a cars wiring will be inspected for damage (such as chaffing against the engine or through an ungrommeted hole etc), and it's security.

3) Car Battery Security

The battery will be checked for security. This should present few problems unless the wrong sized battery is fitted, the clamp is loose or corrosion has affected support or security of the battery.

4) Correctly fitted and legal aftermarket exhaust systems or exhaust components.

5) Number plates must comply with regulations.

6) If electronic parking braking system is fitted, controls must be present, working and not inappropriately modified or repaired.

7) Headlamp bulbs and unit incompatibilty and levelling devices.

The cars lighting system will be checked particularly for incorrect fitment of some aftermarket 'bright' bulb kits.

8) Security of rear doors- including correct functioning of central locking systems.

9) Management electronic control unit (ECU) modification.

It's not fuly understood how ECU systems will be checked as yet, but a car will in theory fail the MOT if it is found that it's ECU unit has been illegally modified or 'chipped'.

http://www.newmot.co.uk


If your engine management light is on and the stored error codes relate to CAT or emission sensors this is also a fail.

The EU wants these changes in place by April this year(2012) so new MOT rules will be heading our way very soon.
 
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If your engine management light is on and the stored error codes relate to CAT or emission sensors this is also a fail.

Not according to my MOT station, they don't go plugging in things if lights are on, they either flag up as a failure or pass.

MIL being on isn't going to be a failure atm.

Lambda sensor readings are irrelivent as long as the car passes the emissions control test with the probe up the rear end (y)
 
Not according to my MOT station, they don't go plugging in things if lights are on, they either flag up as a failure or pass.

MIL being on isn't going to be a failure atm.

Lambda sensor readings are irrelivent as long as the car passes the emissions control test with the probe up the rear end (y)

In order to detect faults like wiring, modified ECU's, operation of self leveling lights etc. they plan to connect diagnostic type machines to the car that will do many of these checks automatically. Error codes will be read and anything thing relating to emissions will fail.

Its not implemented yet but if the EU get there way it will be by April this year. Once they're being enforced you'll find them on the link Dave supplied.

I read somewhere that the EU want all cars to be fitted with CATs regardless of the emissions the engine produces.(I'll try and find it and link to it)

Edit.
This isn't the one I read but it does mention it.

Time is short
So if you're feeling a tad nervous about whether your car will pass, get it into the garage before April. Or buy a nineties banger that isn't lumbered with a lot of safety add-on electronic kit. Provided the killer rot hasn't got there first. Many still run well, though you may have to wind down your windows.

Even then, do pick a car with a catalytic convertor. Those Brussels autocrats insist you car will automatically fail the MOT if it does not have a 'Cat' - even if the engine passes the emissions test! (Yep, it's a crazy EU world.)

http://money.aol.co.uk/2012/01/09/new-mot-rules-may-trash-your-car
 
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...Error codes will be read and anything thing relating to emissions will fail....

im not gunning you down bud but Anything relating to emissions? really? an intermittent fault with a lambda that throws a code but isnt always present? what about a fuel pressure issue that would be severe enough to lean off the mixture slightly that would throw a lambda fault? phantom fault relating to "bank 2" on an inline configurated engine?

these instances couldn't result in an emissions fail! surely its all about what the car produces out of its bunny killing pipe that matters not what engine 'thinks' is happening.

i spent 4 days and a lot of money trying to prep my car for something wasnt even on the test after advice given on this forum im not happy about it but im now asking for 'pics or it didnt happen' proof before going in for the kill again and making me run up short of food/fag money for the month.
 
As I said earlier, the EU wants to fit CAT's regardless of the actual emissions of the car. So I guess they're planing to do the same to emission related error codes. The actual emissions will be ignored, if the car shows a fault that is emissions related like the ones you listed it will fail.

Garages will probably charge people to clear the faults and if they reappear the car fails.

The EU wants all this to be up and running by April this year but as the UK and EU are not seeing eye to eye at the moment lets hope these new rules aren't implemented, all a bit extreme IMO.

I wouldn't do anything to your car until it becomes official, when it is it will be on the link Dave supplied earlier.
 
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... as the UK and EU are not seeing eye to eye at the moment...

i dont ever remember being asked if i wanted to be part of the EU... i dont but it would have been nice to have been asked! but thats a different story.

good info tho shades!(y) i dont care till this time next year anyway so ive got plenty of time to dial stuff in lol
 
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