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I wonder if this very sensible advice from your dealership is Fiat policy or just your good fortune though?
General New 95 hp diesel engine
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General New 95 hp diesel engine
Thanks: I can't keep up here...
I wonder if this very sensible advice from your dealership is Fiat policy or just your good fortune though?
The biggest problem with the diesel for me was (and is) the immense price premium it commands over the 1.2. Personally I think it's worth bearing in mind the problem is not urban driving persay as the car will regen at idle but it's short duration trips of any description.
While we're on the subject of Diesel against Petrol - what is the rpm of a 1.2 in top at an indicated 80mph.
My 1.3 mjt shows just 2,900 which is very leisurely - but more importantly I believe that's close on best power range so even at the speed, I can still continue to accelerate which I prefer.
While I'm cruising along at 2,900 rpm I often wonder what a 1.2 would be doing.
Just curious..
My 1.3 mjt shows just 2,900 which is very leisurely - but more importantly I believe that's close on best power range so even at the speed, I can still continue to accelerate which I prefer.
While I'm cruising along at 2,900 rpm I often wonder what a 1.2 would be doing.
Just curious..
I know 70mph in mine is almost dead on 3000rpm, which is peak torque. Doesn't really settle down brilliantly on a motorway though.
So back to my 1st question ! has anyone took delivery of the 95bhp diesel ands if so whats it like ?
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Diesely with about 20bhp more than the old one.
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I guess by now that the answer is no - not yet. I'm sure that as soon as someone receives one, this forum will be one of the first places you will see a user report.
My 75 bhp is surpringly fast now it has loosened up (21,000) - it's getting better all the time. I'm very interested in the 95bhp version with new suspension. Will likely trade in for one when mine reaches the 3 year mark.
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at 80mph the 1.2 indicates 3500 rpm..ish....this is right on the 1.2s torque peak too, easy acceleration from this speed...
maxi, a main benefit is about 40% more torque btween new and current Mjet...145 lb ft vs 107 lb ft.....thats a lot of extra shove in a little car...
at 80mph the 1.2 indicates 3500 rpm..ish....this is right on the 1.2s torque peak too, easy acceleration from this speed...
That's not bad, i thought it would be higher than that.
maxi, a main benefit is about 40% more torque btween new and current Mjet...145 lb ft vs 107 lb ft.....thats a lot of extra shove in a little car...
That's the bit that really appeals to me... and why I'm so interested..
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See above in red..
The price is a big problem especially now that prices have gone up nearly a grand since I bought mine AND you pay an extra grand for the new diseasel. The diseasel actually makes less sense now than it ever has
If you want something cheap go for the 1.2
If you want powaaaaaah you go for the 1.4 and put the extra 1k towards fuel.
If you want to pay Abarth money for the deeply unsatisfying sensation of driving a dizzler then you buy the MJ.
Me? Personally I'll deal with the fact that I need to drop down a gear for long inclines in my 1.2 safe in the knowledge that I've got an extra £2400 in my bank account or £2400 less on finance as it were even if occasionally I won't be able to pull out to overtake and I'll be paying a little more in total for fuel. For that sort of money you could tick every option box you wanted and some you didn't want to, you could go on a nice couple of holidays this summer, you could buy a nice second hand second car etc etc
Feck I didnt realise the new diesel is actually £2400 more than the 1.2. That is a hell of a lot more to spend on the engine. I bought the diesel version and love it to bits, the DPF takes a little getting used to but its a brilliant drive.
I wouldnt buy anoter one at that price its certanly not worth that much more.
Tut tut Fiat
I wouldnt buy anoter one at that price its certanly not worth that much more.
Tut tut Fiat
Rather. When the diseasel wa the same price as the 1.4 I could understand why people would buy it. Not quite the power of the 1.4 but a load more economical. Now I just think anyone who buys the new diseasel is a bit of a clot for spending that much money on a non-Abarth 500.Feck I didnt realise the new diesel is actually £2400 more than the 1.2. That is a hell of a lot more to spend on the engine. I bought the diesel version and love it to bits, the DPF takes a little getting used to but its a brilliant drive.
I wouldnt buy anoter one at that price its certanly not worth that much more.
Tut tut Fiat
I cant see why Fiat would want to price it like that. I know its a new enigine and better than the old one but its seems to be priced in order for people not to pick it.
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I suppose that with that huge dollop of low-end torque, plus very decent power, the driving sensation will be brilliant. Unlike Maxi I love the easy power offered by good Diesels, and the ability to accelerate up hills on a light throttle is fantastic. The economy is great too, and the new DPFs are fitted close to the manifold, so the regeneration problems are supposedly greatly lessened.
Given that many of us can't buy an Abarth, because there are only about two dealers in the country, the 95 seems to make a very attractive alternative.
I just wish Fiat had tweaked it to bring the CO2 to below the 100gm/km mark. Apparently this tweak will happen, one day.
But: the twin arrives in the summer
Given that many of us can't buy an Abarth, because there are only about two dealers in the country
, the 95 seems to make a very attractive alternative.I just wish Fiat had tweaked it to bring the CO2 to below the 100gm/km mark. Apparently this tweak will happen, one day.
But: the twin arrives in the summer
I'm not saying diesels don't have their place, I'm simply saying there are other alternatives. Especially when the diseasel costs a grand on top of the price of the 1.4 and is getting on for Abarth price levels. The only thing good about turdo diesels is the fact that you can left foot brake to build the boost up so you can overtake.I suppose that with that huge dollop of low-end torque, plus very decent power, the driving sensation will be brilliant. Unlike Maxi I love the easy power offered by good Diesels, and the ability to accelerate up hills on a light throttle is fantastic. The economy is great too, and the new DPFs are fitted close to the manifold, so the regeneration problems are supposedly greatly lessened.
Given that many of us can't buy an Abarth, because there are only about two dealers in the country
I just wish Fiat had tweaked it to bring the CO2 to below the 100gm/km mark. Apparently this tweak will happen, one day.
But: the twin arrives in the summer
The one that is coming soon is my new one, as I've ordered one to replace my current 75 Sport. The first of the new engines are already in the country so should be in dealers next week hopefully
Because it's (a lot) cheaper.
I read everyhting issued by FGAUK to the dealer network, and don't remember reading anything where they say the 1.3 MultiJet isn't suited to short journeys...
Personally, I chose the oil-burner as it suits my needs driving almost 40 miles each way to work and back each day on the M5/M4/M32, and am looking forward to the new engine as more power and better economy can only improve what is already a great car for my needs.
That said, if I was still driving 3 miles a day to work and back as I was for 18 months when I worked in Gloucester I would have a petrol, so officially better suited or not I agree that the petrol would be a better choice.
