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[blu73]

well its only few mins to whip them off and try. but do get the tracking checked asap... Is there any knocking noises or is it just vibration?

 

[Cento186]

well its only few mins to whip them off and try. but do get the tracking checked asap... Is there any knocking noises or is it just vibration?

It's just vibration, other than that the car sounds pretty solid. Up until 60ish it isn't even noticeable, then it just gets progressively worse with speed

 

[Pep0]

It's just vibration, other than that the car sounds pretty solid. Up until 60ish it isn't even noticeable, then it just gets progressively worse with speed

Can you feel the vibration through the brake pedal if you brake at 70?
if you can then try a dial gauge on the datums of discs and drums then remove spacing and try again

 

[Cento186]

Yes I can feel it, alot. The vibrations through the pedal are much less than before but I can still feel it. Its at its worst when slowing down from high speed.

Could you explain that method a little more Pep0 ?

 

[blu73]

 

[Pep0]

Hi

Thanks for that Blu
But OP probably does not need to do that, until after he strips and cleans.
The brake disc has a run out spec to avoid pedal pushing in extreme, you need it to run inside the service limits in my experience.
If you fit a new disc or a refurbed disc you need to check run out.
When you fit any spacer the datum surfaces all need to be clean, no muck or corrosion pits and pocks. Note wheel wooble can feed back into a disc even if the disc is true, Ive had that donno how.
I use a special tool on the edges of the datum surfaces that may have corrosion and then t-cut the whole datum surface of each surface so it looks new.
Then I check with a clamp and feeler gauge cause my dial gauge is always hiding.
Id not remove a disc unless it needs a pro machine shop refurb, file in situ keeps the datum face interfaces in the same relation ship.
Spacers need to be both perfect and clean.

Noel

 

[Cento186]

I've been down the garage this morning an it looks (hopefully) that it could be simpler but I don't know yet.

We had a look at it in the pit and it appears that the rear drivers side tyre and possibly wheel is buggered. I have no real idea how but the tyre has become mis-shaped by the look of it and has partly worn in one patch. It also looks like the wheel might be slightly buckled. This wasn't spotted on the MOT a few days ago

This would make sense because I noticed on the way down here that it feels like the vibration is now coming through my seat rather than the steering wheel. The guy who worked on my car the other day thought it was more likely to be the spacers than the buggered tyre so I will have them off tomorrow and see if that changes anything. If not it will be two new tyres for the rear (one to replace the naff one and another to replace the cracked up old nankang on the other side).

I do hope it is that then I won't have to worry about the discs or spacers at the front, although I do still have the slight pedal judder, Could this be the rear wheel?
Anyway if all this fails I will be getting my spacers checked out properly.

 

[Pep0]

I've been down the garage this morning an it looks (hopefully) that it could be simpler but I don't know yet.

We had a look at it in the pit and it appears that the rear drivers side tyre and possibly wheel is buggered. I have no real idea how but the tyre has become mis-shaped by the look of it and has partly worn in one patch. It also looks like the wheel might be slightly buckled. This wasn't spotted on the MOT a few days ago

This would make sense because I noticed on the way down here that it feels like the vibration is now coming through my seat rather than the steering wheel. The guy who worked on my car the other day thought it was more likely to be the spacers than the buggered tyre so I will have them off tomorrow and see if that changes anything. If not it will be two new tyres for the rear (one to replace the naff one and another to replace the cracked up old nankang on the other side).

I do hope it is that then I won't have to worry about the discs or spacers at the front, although I do still have the slight pedal judder, Could this be the rear wheel?
Anyway if all this fails I will be getting my spacers checked out properly.

Hi you are having troubles.
it is possible that the brake judder could be from your rear unlikely but again I've that too
good luck
The alloy rims only need one pot hole.
Steelies more practical.

 

[Ouby]

Ben, rather than paying the garage all the time it might be worth putting out a shout on a new thread to anyone nearby who REALLY knows these cars & can help you find out the cause of your issues.
Would offer myself but you know how far away I am from Debenham.

 

[Cento186]

Ben, rather than paying the garage all the time it might be worth putting out a shout on a new thread to anyone nearby who REALLY knows these cars & can help you find out the cause of your issues.
Would offer myself but you know how far away I am from Debenham.

I'm sure this will teach me a lesson for living and working in the middle of bloody nowhere

And here's my steering issue..... (Crap sound as its on my phone :shakehead: )

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0jG6NkUbbI

 

[Cento186]

Finally it looks like the problems are on the way to being sorted!

With some great help from @Lecook today :worship: it looks like I need some new rear shocks as the current ones are well on their way out and it appears the vibration is coming from a bent rear stub axle on the drivers side. My main concern is that wheel may be buggered aswell...

The garage found nothing wrong with the car in a whole day nor during the mot and gave the impression they thought I didn't know what I was talking about yet Lee spotted these things in just a few minutes :worship:

As long as I can find a rear trailing arm I hope to get this sorted soon, then maybe I can start looking at some upgrades :devil:

Edit: There is also a little rust starting at the back of the car by the rear arches

 

[Pep0]

Finally it looks like the problems are on the way to being sorted!

With some great help from @Lecook today :worship: it looks like I need some new rear shocks as the current ones are well on their way out and it appears the vibration is coming from a bent rear sub axle on the drivers side. My main concern is that wheel may be buggered aswell...

The garage found nothing wrong with the car in a whole day nor during the mot and gave the impression they thought I didn't know what I was talking about yet Lee spotted these things in just a few minutes :worship:

As long as I can find a rear trailing arm I hope to get this sorted soon, then maybe I can start looking at some upgrades :devil:

Edit: There is also a little rust starting at the back of the car by the rear arches

change garage
think about attending an auto maintenance course
breakers yard for replacement arm they are expensive new
ask ins company before pimping

 

[panda panda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg2Oi4cU_iw

Why are all these Youtube videos always Yankee Doodles with bad camera work?

 

[blu73]

well i suspect there is just more US users than anywhere else tbh. But yes, it does always seem to be some american car or some honda in youtube guides. They must break more or something

 

[fingers99]

Why are all these Youtube videos always Yankee Doodles with bad camera work?

They're brought up to believe that if you make enough bad movies you become president.

 

[Cento186]

Just got some 30mm Apex springs from davidlivings today, can't wait to get them on now

 

[Cento186]

My wind deflectors arrived today, I'm still not 100% sure but I think they look ok...

Before:

After:

Everything seems to be coming together all of a sudden

 

[Lecook]

Get those skirts on and the springs will make it all come together .... actually ...... this is going to be one busy weekend got your sei to do my sei to sort out, my missus punto to sort for mot and maybe even get some bits done on the cinq, jeeeez im glad its a bank holiday lol


Edit: remember to give those rear shock bolts a good coating with that wd40 over the next couple of days

 

[Cento186]

Edit: remember to give those rear shock bolts a good coating with that wd40 over the next couple of days

WD40 everywhere! :spin:

 

[blu73]

better still some plusgas.